Jansen's Future in Doubt?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Wade was pretty solid from what we saw last year, we would have to re-sign him if Jansen is let go. There's gotta be more to Jansen's situation to bring this on. Definitely something to keep an eye on.

Yeah, Wade was pretty decent. I think he heard that he would like to start, so if Jansen goes he could be our man.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Yeah, Wade was pretty decent. I think he heard that he would like to start, so if Jansen goes he could be our man.

He played one game. Let's not get carried away here. Remember he was let go by the Texans.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

He played one game. Let's not get carried away here. Remember he was let go by the Texans.

If Jansen goes (which is highly doubtful) Wade could end up being his replacement. We simply do not have the cap room to sign the 6th overall pick, Clements/Samuels, AND a great free agent RT. Besides, I do not know of any quality RTs on the market.

I didn't say the guy was great, I just said he could end up replacing Jansen were Jansen to be forced out.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

If Jansen goes (which is highly doubtful) Wade could end up being his replacement. We simply do not have the cap room to sign the 6th overall pick, Clements/Samuels, AND a great free agent RT. Besides, I do not know of any quality RTs on the market.

I didn't say the guy was great, I just said he could end up replacing Jansen were Jansen to be forced out.

We will have enough cap room to do all of that (if we want to), as long as we continue to restructure deals. Which definitely shouldn't be a problem.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

We will have enough cap room to do all of that (if we want to), as long as we continue to restructure deals. Which definitely shouldn't be a problem.

You are assuming all the players want to restructure their contracts, which is what WP's LaCanfora might be hinting to: Some players may want to become FA's if the redskins restructure deal is not sweet enough.
Plus players like Jansen and Springs are getting older. Jansen level of play has suffered since his achillies, he is not the Pro-Bowl player of a few years ago.
Plus add Wade into the picture, he played well in his start and he is cheap. WP's LaCanfora is just speculating on these facts.
When you have a younger, cheaper decent player playing behind an expensive vet that is coming off a sub par season, anything can happen.
All speculation!
I am not saying Jansen will get cut. Some day Jansen will be off the team. Nothing is long term in this sport.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

You are assuming all the players want to restructure their contracts, which is what WP's LaCanfora might be hinting to: Some players may want to become FA's if the redskins restructure deal is not sweet enough.
Plus players like Jansen and Springs are getting older. Jansen level of play has suffered since his achillies, he is not the Pro-Bowl player of a few years ago.
Plus add Wade into the picture, he played well in his start and he is cheap. WP's LaCanfora is just speculating on these facts.
When you have a younger, cheaper decent player playing behind an expensive vet that is coming off a sub par season, anything can happen.
All speculation!
I am not saying Jansen will get cut. Some day Jansen will be off the team. Nothing is long term in this sport.

But restructuring deals do not involve any sweetening of the pot. The player still gets the exact amount of money his contract says he gets. Take Jansen for example. He's supposed to make $4.5 million or whatever in base salary this season. A restructure means they give him $4.0 million as a signing bonus right now, in a lumpsum payment, and pay him the other $500,000 in game checks starting in the fall. This is a lot better than waiting until the fall to collect the $4.5 million in game checks. But it's still the same amount of money.

Possible reasons things would go south with Jansen:
- He doesn't want to be a Redskin anymore, so he won't help the team out with a simple restructure.
- He's demanding a pay raise, and is threatening to hold out.
- The team thinks he's garbage and is asking him to take a paycut.

I don't see any reason to believe any of those scenarios are the case. They're certainly plausible, but until I hear something more substantial than La Canfora's speculation in his little blog, I'm going under the assumption that things are just fine with Jansen.

The Philly media built a mountain out of a molehill with Donovan McNabb's apparent unhappiness with the team. Same thing is happening here, though to a lesser extent. Media sensationalization at its best.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

But restructuring deals do not involve any sweetening of the pot. The player still gets the exact amount of money his contract says he gets. Take Jansen for example. He's supposed to make $4.5 million or whatever in base salary this season. A restructure means they give him $4.0 million as a signing bonus right now, in a lumpsum payment, and pay him the other $500,000 in game checks starting in the fall. This is a lot better than waiting until the fall to collect the $4.5 million in game checks. But it's still the same amount of money.

Possible reasons things would go south with Jansen:
- He doesn't want to be a Redskin anymore, so he won't help the team out with a simple restructure.
- He's demanding a pay raise, and is threatening to hold out.
- The team thinks he's garbage and is asking him to take a paycut.

I don't see any reason to believe any of those scenarios are the case. They're certainly plausible, but until I hear something more substantial than La Canfora's speculation in his little blog, I'm going under the assumption that things are just fine with Jansen.

The Philly media built a mountain out of a molehill with Donovan McNabb's apparent unhappiness with the team. Same thing is happening here, though to a lesser extent. Media sensationalization at its best.

Correct if I wrong, but I thought in order to get a decent amount of cap relief in a restructuring deal you have to extend a contract by a couple of years. You will not get much relief if you keep the same amount of money over the same amount of time. You might get relief for the first year, but you will have even a worse problem the next year unless you extend the contract. If extending the length of the contract is needed, not every player will want that. That is where sweetening the deal or enticement comes into play.
Either way at some point the bonus money has to count against the cap. Pay me now or pay me later, the Skins will have to dedicate signing bonus money to the cap sooner or later.
I do not like this game of hide and seek with the cap. We were a below .500 team in 2006 and we are over the cap. Not very good player or money management skills.
Some are so in awe over Snyder and his cap skills. I frankly think it is not a very good example how to run a successful NFL team. The proof was on the field in 2006.