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Old 08-23-2006, 11:54 AM   #1
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GREAT THINKING. You're right.

The Eagles are hopeless for 2006. Westbrook is hurt, so is Buckhalter, Moats isn't the answer and they have no RB depth, so they're looking at a fragile and old Stephen Davis. WRs for McNabb to throw to since they can't run the ball are a 2nd-year #1 WR in Reggie Brown, Pinkston and Hank Baskett.
so wait, just yesterday we were talking about bringing in stephan davis and he could contribute and stll has some years in him, now hes fragile and old? i'm not saying your wrong but its funny how peoples opinions change so fast.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:04 PM   #2
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so wait, just yesterday we were talking about bringing in stephan davis and he could contribute and stll has some years in him, now hes fragile and old? i'm not saying your wrong but its funny how peoples opinions change so fast.
Not everyone was saying Davis could contribute and had years left. I can't recall what Buster's opinion has been but I wouldn't just automatically lump his opinion in with those that said Davis had something left to give and assume he changed his opinion.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:14 PM   #3
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Not everyone was saying Davis could contribute and had years left. I can't recall what Buster's opinion has been but I wouldn't just automatically lump his opinion in with those that said Davis had something left to give and assume he changed his opinion.
That's right, I was one of the ones supporting giving Davis a look.......and for the record, I love the TJ move. Next year's 3rd rounder? Who cares? Chances are slim that you'd find a 3rd rounder next year with the ability of TJ.....and even then how does that help us THIS year? Trading 1st rounders in the worst case scenario? So what? I don't see Denver and the Skins finishing up all that far apart anyway. You're talking about maybe moving 5 or 6 positions.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:31 PM   #4
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That's right, I was one of the ones supporting giving Davis a look.......and for the record, I love the TJ move. Next year's 3rd rounder? Who cares? Chances are slim that you'd find a 3rd rounder next year with the ability of TJ.....and even then how does that help us THIS year? Trading 1st rounders in the worst case scenario? So what? I don't see Denver and the Skins finishing up all that far apart anyway. You're talking about maybe moving 5 or 6 positions.
The way i understand, its not that we are swapping positions with them we will be outright giving them our first round pick if we end up with a worse record than the broncos.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:48 PM   #5
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The way i understand, its not that we are swapping positions with them we will be outright giving them our first round pick if we end up with a worse record than the broncos.
You don't understand the deal.

Scenario 1: Redskins finish with a worse record than Broncos
Result: Broncos swap first round picks with Skins (meaning they get ours, we get theirs), plus the Skins give Broncos a 2007 3rd.
Hypothetical situation, that I really really hope doesn't happen: Everything goes wrong for the Skins, they wind up with a top 10 draft pick. Everything goes right for Denver, they get the 32nd pick. Under this deal, Denver gets that top ten pick, Skins get the 32nd.

Scenario 2: Redskins finish with a better record than Broncos
Result: Skins give Broncos 2007 3rd and 2008 4th.

There is a bit more to the deal than that, but it's the simple version.
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Old 08-23-2006, 01:10 PM   #6
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You don't understand the deal.

Scenario 1: Redskins finish with a worse record than Broncos
Result: Broncos swap first round picks with Skins (meaning they get ours, we get theirs), plus the Skins give Broncos a 2007 3rd.
Hypothetical situation, that I really really hope doesn't happen: Everything goes wrong for the Skins, they wind up with a top 10 draft pick. Everything goes right for Denver, they get the 32nd pick. Under this deal, Denver gets that top ten pick, Skins get the 32nd.

Scenario 2: Redskins finish with a better record than Broncos
Result: Skins give Broncos 2007 3rd and 2008 4th.

There is a bit more to the deal than that, but it's the simple version.
In the reports i have seen i did NOT see the word SWAP. This is the a quote from the report i saw.

"The report said that Denver will receive Washington's first- and third-round picks if the Redskins finish with a worse record than the Broncos this season. If Washington finishes with a better record, Denver would receive third- and fourth-round picks. "
Show me where you see SWAP in there.
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Old 08-23-2006, 01:38 PM   #7
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In the reports i have seen i did NOT see the word SWAP. This is the a quote from the report i saw.

"The report said that Denver will receive Washington's first- and third-round picks if the Redskins finish with a worse record than the Broncos this season. If Washington finishes with a better record, Denver would receive third- and fourth-round picks. "
Show me where you see SWAP in there.
There are plenty of other reports that mention the swap of 1st rounders. I'm tired of posting it so you'll have to look back in this thread.

Giving up a 1st rounder makes no sense at all. Common sense says a swap makes much, much, more sense.

We'll know the exact details soon enough.
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Old 08-23-2006, 01:46 PM   #8
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In the reports i have seen i did NOT see the word SWAP. This is the a quote from the report i saw.

"The report said that Denver will receive Washington's first- and third-round picks if the Redskins finish with a worse record than the Broncos this season. If Washington finishes with a better record, Denver would receive third- and fourth-round picks. "
Show me where you see SWAP in there.
Broncos | Team could swap first-round picks with Washington
Tue, 22 Aug 2006 20:17:35 -0700
Correcting a previous report, the Denver Broncos could swap first-round picks with the Washington Redskins as part of the three-team deal involving former Broncos WR Ashley Lelie. If the Broncos finish with a better record than the Redskins, Denver would receive the Redskins' third-round pick and they would flip-flop first-round picks. If the Redskins finish with a better record than the Broncos, Denver would receive the Redskins' third- and fourth-round picks in the 2007 NFL Draft.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:06 PM   #9
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so wait, just yesterday we were talking about bringing in stephan davis and he could contribute and stll has some years in him, now hes fragile and old? i'm not saying your wrong but its funny how peoples opinions change so fast.
I never said that... and there has to be a reason the Panthers released him. HURT, INJURY PRONE, and OLD when was the last time Stephen finished a season. I think it was when he broke the old Redskins rushing record (1999). Anyway we are much better off now.
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