Charlie Kirk Assassinated.

[Giantone]

Charlie Kirk dead after shooting at Utah Valley University event,


https://news.yahoo.com/us/live/charl...190606372.html

[MTK]

Lived and died by his own rhetoric.

[CRedskinsRule]

the bipolarization of our society exemplified:
my brother and i grew up fairly in sync politically. We both have an oldest son where we raised similarly. Both are mid 20's.
one cried almost inconsolably
one nearly shouted for joy

If this had been a liberal commentator, I am pretty sure the roles would have been reversed.

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[Giantone]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/...042127234.html


HuffPost
MAGA Calls For Vengeance Following Charlie Kirk’s Killing

In the wake of Charlie Kirk’s killing on Wednesday, right-wing commentators and activists pledged to avenge the act of violence and called for payback in explicit statements baselessly blaming “the left.”

“Whether we want to accept it or not, they are at war with us. And what are we going to do about it?” Fox News host Jesse Watterssaid in a Wednesday segment.

Trump ally and right-wing conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer chimed in as well via a post on X, writing: “The best way President Trump can reinforce Charlie’s legacy is by cracking down on the Left with the full force of the government.”

[MTK]

Don’t recall them going bonkers over Melissa Hortman but that’s how they roll

[GridIron26]

I had to double check to see if it's true when my friend posted this and turns out it is.. Charlie once said this: "I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."

[MTK]

Yeah he said plenty of pretty despicable things. Certainly don’t condone what happened to him but with all the wackos in the world today if you keep blowing the dog whistle sooner or later you get bit.

[Giantone]

I realize any murder is horrific but he was a political activist and often antagonized others on purpose he was not an elected Official. The "shock and aw " for his death is over the top IMO. In many locations it superseded any or all 9-11 events. IMPO that's phucked up.

[Giantone]

A Point not to be Overlooked.

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/w...ously-sanitize



Yesterday, while giving a campus speech, far-right activist and anti-LGBTQ+ influencer Charlie Kirk was assassinated by a gunman—another grim marker of how political violence has become a recurring feature of American life. Quickly, political figures and pundits rushed to denounce the killing, as they should. But some went further, valorizing and lionizing a man who built his career on contempt of people he viewed as lesser. Political violence is corrosive and we must not excuse it—killing Charlie Kirk was horrific. But we also must not sanitize the memory of a man who wished harm on those he disagreed with, and who spread a message of hate to anyone willing to listen or pay him to so. We can denounce the violent killing of Charlie Kirk without praising his abhorrent legacy.

Yesterday, Gavin Newsom tweeted that we should “continue the work” of Charlie Kirk and honor his memory. This morning, centrist columnist Ezra Klein published a column titled “Charlie Kirk Was Practicing Politics The Right Way.” Both paint a portrait of an open-minded Kirk, a man of dialogue and principle. But this is not his legacy. To call for “continuing his work” or to praise how he “practiced politics” is to erase what that work actually was: a relentless campaign of hate directed at LGBTQ+ people, racial and ethnic minorities, and anyone who refused to fall in line.

I first reported on Charlie Kirk years ago, at the beginning of the modern anti-LGBTQ+ panic—back when Riley Gaines was rising to far-right fame and her fifth-place swim finish was weaponized against transgender people. In one interview with Gaines on Real America’s Voice, Kirk railed against “the decline of American men” and blamed it for transgender equality. Then he added that people should have “just took care of” transgender people “the way we used to take care of things in the 1950s and 60s.” Let’s be clear about what that meant: the 1950s and 60s were not kind to transgender people. The “standard treatments” were lobotomy, shock therapy, and involuntary institutionalization. Police commissioners openly described queer people as “a cancer in the community” and promoted “vigilant detecting.” Violence was the norm. So when someone calls for “continuing his work” or praises him for “practicing politics the right way,” this is the work they are honoring.


Charlie Kirk’s violent rhetoric toward transgender people in that clip was not an aberration—it was his brand. He preached hate and violence as a matter of routine. In another interview, he mocked Christians who followed scripture about loving their neighbor, scoffing that God also “calls for the stoning of gay people,” which he described as “God’s perfect law.” This was not a slip of the tongue. Hate was and continued to be central to his message. So when people invoke Kirk’s “work” and urge us to carry it forward, when they valorize him as some open-minded political figure, this is what they are valorizing: praising violence, contempt for human dignity, and the politics of fear dressed up as principle.

[mredskins]

in this country you have the right to free speech, kirk exercised that right and sadly it cost him his life

i do not condone any of his beliefs but his assassination is a chip in our democracy; just because you don't like the message doesn't give you the right to silence it

[Chico23231]

Left wing violence is a serious problem.


The examples of the Left’s frequent recourse to terror, mayhem, and death abound. There is formally extralegal violence, which includes the murder of Kirk, the transgender killers of small children, the deliberate creation of insecure common spaces in which assaults and deaths occur, the murders of Jews in public, shooters targeting conservative organizations, and the various attempts to kill conservative presidents, Supreme Court justices, and congressmen. There is also regime-sanctioned mass violence—most significantly the Black Lives Matter insurrection during the summer of 2020. Additionally, there are varieties of formal and networked repression, from government-imposed pandemic restrictions and iniquitous racial/ethnic preferentialism to societally enforced cancel culture and speech codes.

It is worth noting that this is not especially incisive or contrarian analysis: everyone knows it. Everyone knows that the Left is the violent faction in American public life today. Everyone knows that shop windows were boarded up in November 2020 out of fear of the Left’s reaction to the election, not the Right’s. Everyone knows there is no threat to public order in response to the murder of Charlie Kirk as there was after the death of George Floyd. Everyone knows that a gathering of pro-Palestinians carries with it a high potential for violence, but a gathering of pro-Israel partisans does not. Everyone knows there is a national network of street fighters on the Left, not on the Right. Everyone knows that colleges have to worry about security for conservative events, not leftist ones.

Everyone knows

And the thought this is the “fringe”, that lie was destroyed this week. This murder was celebrated on social media by nurses, soldiers, healthcare professionals, government workers, professors and teachers.

Political violence and murder are an endorsed democrat mainstream view now. Pathetic little people…just pathetic

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Left wing violence is a serious problem.


The examples of the Left’s frequent recourse to terror, mayhem, and death abound. There is formally extralegal violence, which includes the murder of Kirk, the transgender killers of small children, the deliberate creation of insecure common spaces in which assaults and deaths occur, the murders of Jews in public, shooters targeting conservative organizations, and the various attempts to kill conservative presidents, Supreme Court justices, and congressmen. There is also regime-sanctioned mass violence—most significantly the Black Lives Matter insurrection during the summer of 2020. Additionally, there are varieties of formal and networked repression, from government-imposed pandemic restrictions and iniquitous racial/ethnic preferentialism to societally enforced cancel culture and speech codes.

It is worth noting that this is not especially incisive or contrarian analysis: everyone knows it. Everyone knows that the Left is the violent faction in American public life today. Everyone knows that shop windows were boarded up in November 2020 out of fear of the Left’s reaction to the election, not the Right’s. Everyone knows there is no threat to public order in response to the murder of Charlie Kirk as there was after the death of George Floyd. Everyone knows that a gathering of pro-Palestinians carries with it a high potential for violence, but a gathering of pro-Israel partisans does not. Everyone knows there is a national network of street fighters on the Left, not on the Right. Everyone knows that colleges have to worry about security for conservative events, not leftist ones.

Everyone knows

And the thought this is the “fringe”, that lie was destroyed this week. This murder was celebrated on social media by nurses, soldiers, healthcare professionals, government workers, professors and teachers.

Political violence and murder are an endorsed democrat mainstream view now. Pathetic little people…just pathetic

So much BS here hard to know where to start.
Charlie Kirk’s violent rhetoric toward transgender people was not an aberration—it was his brand. He preached hate and violence as a matter of routine. In another interview, he mocked Christians who followed scripture about loving their neighbor, scoffing that God also “calls for the stoning of gay people,” which he described as “God’s perfect law.” This was not a slip of the tongue. Hate was and continued to be central to his message. So when people invoke Kirk’s “work” and urge us to carry it forward, when they valorize him as some open-minded political figure, this is what they are valorizing: praising violence, contempt for human dignity, and the politics of fear dressed up as principle.

Chico I like how you ignored the political violence when the reps in Minnesota were gunned down and then you ignored the right wing nut violence in Charlottesville VA and of course Jan 6th Insurrection. Freedom of Speech is the right of every American but there has always been limits, you can't scream fire in a movie theater is always the example but you can't libel and there is a restriction on hate speech as well you can't build gallows in front of the Nations Capitol and threaten to kill the VP( yes the Right did that). Kirks death was horrific and to celebrate and assignation is sick. I have lived through too many to ever do that, your ignorance to political violence is staggering. Like many on the right you never had this type of response to school shootings but the moral outrage now is almost funny. Murder in all forms is wrong and shouldn't need to be said people commenting on a man who made his living attacking other Americans and their way of life becuase he didn't like it, was taking chances . As Matty said he lived by his own rhetoric and he died by it, that's not celebrating it, that is an honest opinion and evaluation of what happen to him. People , Teachers , Firemen , Secret Service employees etc. have free speech too and can voice their opinions and should be able to without retribution . Many of those terminated will be in court. It's you that should be ashamed of this incident and the hate that the right has caused in this Country under trump a president who has endorsed his political party to be violent and they have embraced it.

[Giantone]

This for you chico.............................


https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/...190441555.html

Outrage as pro-Trump rapper and country singer release pro-lynching song: ‘Hang ‘em up high at sundown’

A white rapper known for viral anthems supporting Donald Trump and Republican officials has released a music video with a country singer calling for public lynchings.

Over a banjo riff, the chorus of “Good vs Evil” from MAGA rapper Forgiato Blow and country singer JJ Lawhorn repeats instructions for hanging people at “sundown,” an apparent reference to “sundown towns” that violently enforce racial segregation.

The song calls for “a big tall tree and a short piece of rope” to “hang ‘em up high at sundown” and “leave ‘em swinging so the folks all know you don’t mess around in our town.”

[Chico23231]

If you and others are saying “he lived by his rhetoric and died by rhetoric”…you are justifying killing half the country that agrees with the views.

Having a different opinion, being a Christian, supporting a different political party is NOT preaching hate, not being a Nazi and not supporting fascism. Grow the fuck the up little pathetic people

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

If you and others are saying “he lived by his rhetoric and died by rhetoric”…you are justifying killing half the country that agrees with the views.

Having a different opinion, being a Christian, supporting a different political party is NOT preaching hate, not being a Nazi and not supporting fascism. Grow the fuck the up little pathetic people

Chico = Hypocrite


Charlie Kirk did just that preach hate.

Did he deserve what he got, no. Did he cause his own death, a case can be made for it. There is a big difference.