NFL offseason 2025

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by calia

I'd rather have Terry that DK -- he's older, but a better leader and equally effective. And I imagine that with a better WR2 this year for the first time since he's been here, a better OL, and another year of experience for JD5, he could really light it up.

I really hope this gets done and soon.

I would also prefer Terry over DK. It's not Peters fault though that Pittsburgh overpaid for him. Keim is saying now 28 million annually is max offer for Terry. He's likely to reject. Frustrating situation.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Here's to Jaylin Lane becoming the new McLaurin. At this point, if 28 million is the max offer, just go ahead and trade him. He isn't going to accept that and can't really blame him. That seems like a pretty mid-offer for a great player and teammate. Hopefully recoup a pick or 2 that we lost in the Tunsil/Deebo trades.

[calia]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Here's to Jaylin Lane becoming the new McLaurin. At this point, if 28 million is the max offer, just go ahead and trade him. He isn't going to accept that and can't really blame him. That seems like a pretty mid-offer for a great player and teammate. Hopefully recoup a pick or 2 that we lost in the Tunsil/Deebo trades.

Why do that? Why not have him play out on his current contract? He's not going to hold out the season -- that would be really unwise, especially because we could franchise him too. He has one more shot at a big contract, short of a trade, and it is with us. Why not offer $28M/yr plus some added money if certain milestones are reached (e.g., >12 tds, >1300 yards), stuff that is not out of reach but would be pretty hard to do (at least more than once), and if he achieved those numbers he'd certainly have earned it. It can be $28M/yr x 3 yrs with $65M guaranteed and possible going up to $33M/yr with incentives.

Obviously, I don't do this for a living so maybe it's entirely unrealistic, but it seems like there's got to be some way to bridge the gap.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by calia

Why do that? Why not have him play out on his current contract? He's not going to hold out the season -- that would be really unwise, especially because we could franchise him too. He has one more shot at a big contract, short of a trade, and it is with us. Why not offer $28M/yr plus some added money if certain milestones are reached (e.g., >12 tds, >1300 yards), stuff that is not out of reach but would be pretty hard to do (at least more than once), and if he achieved those numbers he'd certainly have earned it. It can be $28M/yr x 3 yrs with $65M guaranteed and possible going up to $33M/yr with incentives.

Obviously, I don't do this for a living so maybe it's entirely unrealistic, but it seems like there's got to be some way to bridge the gap.

Football players are humans. The other 52 players don't want to constantly have to talk about this. And if he holds out, that will 100% be the 1st or 2nd question regardless of situation. It's a distraction. And if Peters' line is 28 and McLaurin wants more than 30, it's no longer a negotiation.

We could start out 5-0 without McLaurin, and the 1st question would be about Jayden or Terry. The 2nd question will absolutely be about whatever wasn't question 1.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

I am reading what I am replying to every time. Yes, you did say average since you don't recall.

Your post below:

"that link has his contract breakdown, it also says 33m average"

Not only are you arguing with a point I never made, but you are contradicting yourself now. I do not want to discuss this with you anymore. Please take it up with Adam Schefter and all these other national sites that are using the 33 million average as a consistent reference. The fact that you are literally acting like you know Pittsburgh will cut Metcalf years prior to his contract end is unbelievable. This is your argument which is invalid since you have no clue how long Pittsburgh will want him for. Metcalf is a dude and nearly 2 1/2 years younger than Terry.

Dude, learn to read. You're responding to things I'm not actually saying and obviously (purposefully?) missing the point. I said I picked 3 years since that's what most people are talking about for a terry contract and that's when DK's contract has no more guaranteed money, which is often when players get dumped. I was also just pointing out that contract money is more nuanced than just the average. Please show me the contradiction? I have never said the average is not the average.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by calia

Why do that? Why not have him play out on his current contract? He's not going to hold out the season -- that would be really unwise, especially because we could franchise him too. He has one more shot at a big contract, short of a trade, and it is with us. Why not offer $28M/yr plus some added money if certain milestones are reached (e.g., >12 tds, >1300 yards), stuff that is not out of reach but would be pretty hard to do (at least more than once), and if he achieved those numbers he'd certainly have earned it. It can be $28M/yr x 3 yrs with $65M guaranteed and possible going up to $33M/yr with incentives.

Obviously, I don't do this for a living so maybe it's entirely unrealistic, but it seems like there's got to be some way to bridge the gap.

I think AP probably has 2 things in mind.
1) he thinks TM is 25-28$mill/y, which is probably fair value.
2) he doesn't want to get stuck paying $30m for a 500yard receiving year

If we have TM play out and franchise, that's ~18.5m (3m paid and 15.5m left)/28m, and no dead money into Terry's 32 year old season (i.e. it seems like AP/the team get everything they want at 23m/year). If he holds out, he's burning big money and any shot of a big deal. I just don't see a reason for the team to move.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by That Guy

Dude, learn to read. You're responding to things I'm not actually saying and obviously (purposefully?) missing the point. I said I picked 3 years since that's what most people are talking about for a terry contract and that's when DK's contract has no more guaranteed money, which is often when players get dumped. I was also just pointing out that contract money is more nuanced than just the average. Please show me the contradiction? I have never said the average is not the average.

As I stated in last my last post, I'm not talking about this with you anymore. You are trying to contort what you said and your argument of assumptions as opposed to facts. I read as others read what you wrote. Very clear to see you argument is baseless and contradicting numbers being reported. Whatever makes you feel better though.

[sdskinsfan2001]

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

As I stated in last my last post, I'm not talking about this with you anymore. You are trying to contort what you said and your argument of assumptions as opposed to facts. I read as others read what you wrote. Very clear to see you argument is baseless and contradicting numbers being reported. Whatever makes you feel better though.

The contract numbers listed on sportstrac are assumptions and baseless? Once again, please tell me about these fake contradictions you keep bringing up. My numbers match the source I linked that you've also used, so... what the hell are you even talking about?

weak dude. do better.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by That Guy

The contract numbers listed on sportstrac are assumptions and baseless? Once again, please tell me about these fake contradictions you keep bringing up. My numbers match the source I linked that you've also used, so... what the hell are you even talking about?

weak dude. do better.

You just won't give up will you? Every other source is stating 33 million a year on average. Even in the Spotrac link, your numbers don't match at all. Metcalf has salaries every year of his contract including the final ones. Just because it's not guaranteed doesn't mean he won't get it or he'll be cut as you keep stating. You don't know. No knows honestly at this point depending on how well he does there. Your argument is speculative at this point. SMH. You do better and deal with facts. You have this weak, bs argument and for some bizarre reason feel like avoiding facts.

I agree with the notion to force Terry to play out his current deal. It doesn't sound like a deal will be reached soon.

[88Commanders00]

They are to far apart. There will be no deal. We have him by the balls and he will come in and then go elsewhere in 26.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

You just won't give up will you? Every other source is stating 33 million a year on average. Even in the Spotrac link, your numbers don't match at all. Metcalf has salaries every year of his contract including the final ones. Just because it's not guaranteed doesn't mean he won't get it or he'll be cut as you keep stating. You don't know. No knows honestly at this point depending on how well he does there. Your argument is speculative at this point. SMH. You do better and deal with facts. You have this weak, bs argument and for some bizarre reason feel like avoiding facts.



I agree with the notion to force Terry to play out his current deal. It doesn't sound like a deal will be reached soon.

Diana Rosini came out earlier this week or last week and said it most likely wasn't the average value that Terry was looking to match but moreso the guaranteed money .

Per Spotrac, DK's contract has 60 million in practical guarantees. The Commanders are likely offering around 50. Hence the 10million difference.

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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by 88Commanders00

They are to far apart. There will be no deal. We have him by the balls and he will come in and then go elsewhere in 26.

i don't see him turning down over 50M in guaranteed money. That would be stupid and Terry isn't stupid. Playing out this contract risks an injury that ends his career or greatly diminishes his value at age 31.

The one proviso to that is if he could by an injury insurance policy with a substantial benefit. With his spotless record that might be an option.

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[Chico23231]

I get so fucking pissed seeing Brandon McManus making kicks for Green Bay. Think our kicker this year will be a problem, dude can’t kick beyond 50

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Diana Rosini came out earlier this week or last week and said it most likely wasn't the average value that Terry was looking to match but moreso the guaranteed money .

Per Spotrac, DK's contract has 60 million in practical guarantees. The Commanders are likely offering around 50. Hence the 10million difference.

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That's not my issue with his posts. He is attempting to undermine Adam Schefter and other credible reports of DK Metcalf's contract and the 33 million average. He even claims to know Pittsburgh will cut DK prior to his last 2 years of his deal debunking Schefter's report of the salary. He is focusing only on guaranteed money and not potential earnings which is factored into the average annual value.

I know we all want Terry signed but reports aren't looking great. At this point, I'm starting to wonder if he sits out games. I doubt it, but it wouldn't surprise me with how this has gone. Seems like him and AP aren't budging.