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[That Guy]

two things can be true at once.

terrorism is bad. land theft/oppression is also bad. There's a lot of nuance and history related to how this whole thing has played out since WWII (that's sorta pointless to go into on a football board), but the short of it is that neither side has been seriously interested in peace for a while. If the underlying causes aren't addressed, this shit will just continue on some version of repeat every few years (spoiler, they probably won't be addressed).

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by That Guy

two things can be true at once.

terrorism is bad. land theft/oppression is also bad. There's a lot of nuance and history related to how this whole thing has played out since WWII (that's sorta pointless to go into on a football board), but the short of it is that neither side has been seriously interested in peace for a while. If the underlying causes aren't addressed, this shit will just continue on some version of repeat every few years (spoiler, they probably won't be addressed).

It probably will go on for the rest of this century and probably the next as well. That said I put this entirely on the Arabs. In 1948 there were 2 states and it was the Arabs that decided they wanted it all and chose war to get their way and never renounced the goal of Israels destruction. And they have been complaining ever since about the Israeli's being better at violence than them. You've seen the meme if the Israelis laid down their weapons they would be annihilated, if the Arabs did there would be peace. That actually is accurate.