Ravens v Commanders game thread

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Agreed. Overreacting to pre-season works both ways: don't panic when we look bad, but don't pop the champagne just yet when some of our starters on D got embarrassed by a bunch of 2s and 3s, and when all our 1s on O couldn't get it in the endzone against their 2nd and 3rd stringers...

Watched the 1st quarter so far, Sam looked pretty good, minus that really bad sack he took on the first drive. But yeah, he looks confortable, throws a good ball, seems to have a nice connection with both Terry and Cole Turner, makes good decisions. Promising for sure.

Oline is worrying, they looked decent only because they were facing back ups. Sam Cosmi was man handled on the first play of the game. My worry is if we're not able to establish a run game, we'll end up asking too much from Howell, which could cost us against good defense.

It's only the pre-season but I didn't like seeing both Forbes and Jartavius Martin missing tackles on the first drive (Forbes made up for on the next drive).

I'm not sure how you can come away from that game with the idea that the O-line is "worrying". They dominated. Does that mean they will dominate against the Ravens #1s, or anyone else's #1s? Maybe... Maybe not... But the fact that they did dominate, is encouraging.

[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I'm not sure how you can come away from that game with the idea that the O-line is "worrying". They dominated. Does that mean they will dominate against the Ravens #1s, or anyone else's #1s? Maybe... Maybe not... But the fact that they did dominate, is encouraging.

I think the interior is better than some give it credit for, but the tackles still worry me a bit. They are not much better than Lucas, if at all, which begs the question of their offseason strategy. Still bugs me that we could have taken Darrisaw when we drafted Jamin Davis. To my mind OTs are far more valuable than LBs in the first round

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

I think the interior is better than some give it credit for, but the tackles still worry me a bit. They are not much better than Lucas, if at all, which begs the question of their offseason strategy. Still bugs me that we could have taken Darrisaw when we drafted Jamin Davis. To my mind OTs are far more valuable than LBs in the first round

Me too! I remember wanting Darrisaw as our pick. He was better than Davis to begin with and he plays OT. This was a no brainer in my mind.

I'm high on Mason Brooks right now. He looks to me like he can become a good NFL lineman. Instead of giving other players what feels to me like eleventy-five years to show their mettle, Ron needs to move on from them and give a new prospect a chance to succeed. It's called having a sense of urgency.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Me too! I remember wanting Darrisaw as our pick. He was better than Davis to begin with and he plays OT. This was a no brainer in my mind.

I'm high on Mason Brooks right now. He looks to me like he can become a good NFL lineman. Instead of giving other players what feels to me like eleventy-five years to show their mettle, Ron needs to move on from them and give a new prospect a chance to succeed. It's called having a sense of urgency.

Lol @ ron and urgency.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Me too! I remember wanting Darrisaw as our pick. He was better than Davis to begin with and he plays OT. This was a no brainer in my mind.

I'm high on Mason Brooks right now. He looks to me like he can become a good NFL lineman. Instead of giving other players what feels to me like eleventy-five years to show their mettle, Ron needs to move on from them and give a new prospect a chance to succeed. It's called having a sense of urgency.

I say cut Lucas, keep Brooks.

[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I say cut Lucas, keep Brooks.

Yoy are insane, there are about 5 guys I would cut before Lucas, Wiley might be one of them. I like Brooks, he is a great story and character, and would be pleased if they felt he was good enough to allow them to cut Larsen, Daniels, Scott or a extra defensive player. Just think he needs some time on the practice squad.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

Yoy are insane, there are about 5 guys I would cut before Lucas, Wiley might be one of them. I like Brooks, he is a great story and character, and would be pleased if they felt he was good enough to allow them to cut Larsen, Daniels, Scott or a extra defensive player. Just think he needs some time on the practice squad.

Brooks is a T, Larsen C/G have to get rid of a T to keep a T.

[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Brooks is a T, Larsen C/G have to get rid of a T to keep a T.

Brooks is a G last time I checked, even so Trent Scott and Braden Daniels would be the first OT in line to be cut, not Lucas

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I'm not sure how you can come away from that game with the idea that the O-line is "worrying". They dominated. Does that mean they will dominate against the Ravens #1s, or anyone else's #1s? Maybe... Maybe not... But the fact that they did dominate, is encouraging.

I have now watched the full game and I wouldn't call what I saw from the Oline "domination".
Pre-season is for individual evaluation, but to get a sense of where a squad is at, I tend to focus on the first drive, when they're more likely to face NFL-ish opposition... And that first drive didn't look good for them. I liked that Sam overcame the sack and all, but against subpar opposition, I don't think the Oline looked great.
From the second drive only, once Baltimore only had 2s and 3s in there, they managed to give some time to Sam on most snaps.
Plus there's wasn't any clear lanes in the running game, just watch our first two snaps... we were worried about our left side, but our right side seems to be struggling the most, Wylie hasn't looked great so far and I'm not sure Sam Cosmi is better suited to play guard.

If you wanna say that "worrying" is too strong of a word, that's fine, but with our offensive weapons, and how well Sam seems to be developing, I don't like the idea of potentially not having a reliable run game and not being able to handle NFL level pass rush.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I have now watched the full game and I wouldn't call what I saw from the Oline "domination".
Pre-season is for individual evaluation, but to get a sense of where a squad is at, I tend to focus on the first drive, when they're more likely to face NFL-ish opposition... And that first drive didn't look good for them. I liked that Sam overcame the sack and all, but against subpar opposition, I don't think the Oline looked great.
From the second drive only, once Baltimore only had 2s and 3s in there, they managed to give some time to Sam on most snaps.
Plus there's wasn't any clear lanes in the running game, just watch our first two snaps... we were worried about our left side, but our right side seems to be struggling the most, Wylie hasn't looked great so far and I'm not sure Sam Cosmi is better suited to play guard.

If you wanna say that "worrying" is too strong of a word, that's fine, but with our offensive weapons, and how well Sam seems to be developing, I don't like the idea of potentially not having a reliable run game and not being able to handle NFL level pass rush.

I wouldn't be surprised if Wylie and Cosmi switched positions at some point during the season.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I have now watched the full game and I wouldn't call what I saw from the Oline "domination".
Pre-season is for individual evaluation, but to get a sense of where a squad is at, I tend to focus on the first drive, when they're more likely to face NFL-ish opposition... And that first drive didn't look good for them. I liked that Sam overcame the sack and all, but against subpar opposition, I don't think the Oline looked great.
From the second drive only, once Baltimore only had 2s and 3s in there, they managed to give some time to Sam on most snaps.
Plus there's wasn't any clear lanes in the running game, just watch our first two snaps... we were worried about our left side, but our right side seems to be struggling the most, Wylie hasn't looked great so far and I'm not sure Sam Cosmi is better suited to play guard.

If you wanna say that "worrying" is too strong of a word, that's fine, but with our offensive weapons, and how well Sam seems to be developing, I don't like the idea of potentially not having a reliable run game and not being able to handle NFL level pass rush.

Maybe "worrying" and "domination" are both too strong. They definitely gave him a clean pocket (by NFL standards) for the majority of his drop backs. I'm just saying it was encouraging. If Sam was running for his life - like TH was most of last year, then I'd be less encouraged, but he wasn't.