The Common Ground thread

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I guess my point is there are actual cons to wind turbines such as battery storage and infrastructure upgrade that limit them. Animal kills are red herring argument when there are far larger culprits out there for animal kills. We can't be pro domestic oil and anti wind turbines and the argument be that they kill animals because domestic oil kills more birds than wind turbines.

In terms of benefits of climate change is a potential short term increase in a growing season in some regions really a benefit? For the last 12,000 years our global temp has fluctuated in a 1.5 oC range. Every seed and animal we have selected genetics for has been cultivated in that narrow range. The current generation being born is the first generation that will live their lives out of that 1.5 oC window. Are we willing to risk our agricultural production and hope that science and technology will be able to modify organisms in a warming world? I feel like that is human hubris to me.

Anyways we could have this discussion till we are blue in the face and probably not see eye to eye. Can we at least agree Feinstein needs to step down?