trump the Criminal

[Giantone]

Trump becomes be the first former U.S. president ever to be charged with a crime.

New York grand jury votes to indict Trump in hush money case: Live updates


https://news.yahoo.com/trump-new-yor...214723895.html


Finally!

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Trump becomes be the first former U.S. president ever to be charged with a crime.

New York grand jury votes to indict Trump in hush money case: Live updates


https://news.yahoo.com/trump-new-yor...214723895.html


Finally!

Should have been one of the serious cases to go first (Georgia, Jan 6, or Florida). This one gives too much an appearance of a case brought for political reasons. This one only helps the MAGA crazies in their attempts to paint these cases as unjustified.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Should have been one of the serious cases to go first (Georgia, Jan 6, or Florida). This one gives too much an appearance of a case brought for political reasons. This one only helps the MAGA crazies in their attempts to paint these cases as unjustified.

Not too much of an appearance, it's 100% of the reason why it was brought on. If more than 100% was a real percentage, I'd argue that was the case. The democratic party loves Trump (not all voters, the party machine), it's the gift that keeps on giving.

To add - I don't want Trump to run. And if he does, there's a 0% chance I'm voting for him.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Should have been one of the serious cases to go first (Georgia, Jan 6, or Florida). This one gives too much an appearance of a case brought for political reasons. This one only helps the MAGA crazies in their attempts to paint these cases as unjustified.

What would your gameplan have been to convince the MAGA crazies these cases are justified?

[Giantone]

AP sources: Trump facing at least 1 felony charge in NY case

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-arraign...155305877.html


NEW YORK (AP) — Former President Donald Trump is facing multiple charges of falsifying business records, including at least one felony offense, in the indictment handed down by a Manhattan grand jury, two people familiar with the matter told The Associated Press on Friday.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by mooby

What would your gameplan have been to convince the MAGA crazies these cases are justified?

There is no game plain. MAGA trumpettes are morons and nothing will change them,...........look at chico and the other trumpettes here, they back him no matter what.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by mooby

What would your gameplan have been to convince the MAGA crazies these cases are justified?

Problem is this lends weight to MAGA arguments that these cases are purely political witch hunts (the non crazies think this particular case is in fact political). So what you have here is a bad apple mixed in with the good ones. Additionally, I've heard this is likely to disrupt the timing of the cases he actually has a chance to be convicted of in court, This one will come first and it will take a year or more to conduct and the legal analysts I've heard (Abrams, Smerconish etc) don't think it will fly,

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Problem is this lends weight to MAGA arguments that these cases are purely political witch hunts (the non crazies think this particular case is in fact political). So what you have here is a bad apple mixed in with the good ones. Additionally, I've heard this is likely to disrupt the timing of the cases he actually has a chance to be convicted of in court, This one will come first and it will take a year or more to conduct and the legal analysts I've heard (Abrams, Smerconish etc) don't think it will fly,

I actually heard the opposite . So you're saying a ex president is above the law.






https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...-faqs-00089864

How will the indictment affect the other ongoing Trump-focused investigations?


The short answer is: Not much. There’s no reason to think the indictment in Manhattan will influence the trajectory of several other probes that present an acute risk of more criminal charges for Trump. A grand jury in Fulton County, Ga., is examining his bid to overturn the election results in that state, and at the federal level, special counsel Jack Smith is leading twin probes into Trump’s role in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol and his retention of government documents after his presidency.
Formally, a federal criminal case against Trump — if it were filed — would allow federal prosecutors to take precedence over any local case or cases.

Concurrent criminal proceedings against Trump would inevitably cause some logistical problems, but typically the feds and local prosecutors try to work out any conflicts.

[nonniey]

Maybe you did but as one of the crazies you only listen to the crazies. The moderate opened minded analysts say this case is extremely weak - even the NYT and WP (not really moderates) think it is weak and will basically act as a cock blocker for the real cases.

Originally Posted by Giantone

I actually heard the opposite . So you're saying a ex president is above the law.






https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...-faqs-00089864

How will the indictment affect the other ongoing Trump-focused investigations?


The short answer is: Not much. There’s no reason to think the indictment in Manhattan will influence the trajectory of several other probes that present an acute risk of more criminal charges for Trump. A grand jury in Fulton County, Ga., is examining his bid to overturn the election results in that state, and at the federal level, special counsel Jack Smith is leading twin probes into Trump’s role in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol and his retention of government documents after his presidency.
Formally, a federal criminal case against Trump — if it were filed — would allow federal prosecutors to take precedence over any local case or cases.

Concurrent criminal proceedings against Trump would inevitably cause some logistical problems, but typically the feds and local prosecutors try to work out any conflicts.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Maybe you did but as one of the crazies you only listen to the crazies. The moderate opened minded analysts say this case is extremely weak - even the NYT and WP (not really moderates) think it is weak and will basically act as a cock blocker for the real cases.

Not surprising you listen to the trump back media . You ignored the question which I'll repeat. Is the ex President above the law? Maybe you can give me a grown up response this time?


https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...ation-00090080

LEGAL

Lawyer says there is ‘substantial documentation’ to back up Cohen’s testimony
Attorney Lanny Davis mentioned Karen McDougal in addition to Stormy Daniels.
By KELLY GARRITY

04/02/2023 01:06 PM EDT

There is “substantial documentation” to corroborate Michael Cohen’s testimony in the case being brought against former President Donald Trump over hush money Cohen paid, lawyer Lanny Davis said Sunday.

Davis also said that material pertains not only to payments made to porn actress Stormy Daniels but a second woman as well, Karen McDougal. She is a former Playboy model who also claims to have had an affair with Trump, who denies affairs with both women.
“Michael Cohen submitted a lot of documentation not only to this group of prosecutors but to the earlier group. And there are other documents from other people and other testimony from other people, some of it direct, involving conversations with Mr. Trump concerning the Karen McDougal crime,” Davis said when asked by CNN’s Dana Bash if there were documents backing up Cohen’s testimony in the case for which Trump has been indicted.


“And so the answer is substantial documentation,” Davis said on “State of the Union.”