Sam howell takes Down Dallas postgame

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

If you are going to bring TH back that is the way to do it. If not I think you have to draft a qb with 1st or 2nd if it grades out.

My initial thought on Howell is that we found short Daniel Jones which imo is fine. You can build around that and might even make the playoffs from time to time.

I love how some of you underestimate Howell and compare him to a short Daniel Jones. He just beat your most hated rival with many odds against him (starters missing, Turner handcuffing him, etc.) next year you will be praising him, guaranteed!!!

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I love how some of you underestimate Howell and compare him to a short Daniel Jones. He just beat your most hated rival with many odds against him (starters missing, Turner handcuffing him, etc.) next year you will be praising him, guaranteed!!!

I hope so but odds are against him. Nobody drafted after 5th has gone on to be a quality starter over the last two decades so I’d prefer to think of my self as pragmatic. Also calling him a short Daniel Jones isn’t negative, If he could give us Daniel Jones production I could live with that and we can build a team around it, but I need to see more before I think he is a starter. I thought 19 passes and run heavy is the way you set him up for success (very similar to Jones).

Loved arm strength, he had an good touch on the ball, and his tucking and running but a few under thrown balls and few others into double and triple coverage, hope that is just first game jitters and not his game IQ.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I hope so but odds are against him. Nobody drafted after 5th has gone on to be a quality starter over the last two decades so I’d prefer to think of my self as pragmatic. Also calling him a short Daniel Jones isn’t negative, If he could give us Daniel Jones production I could live with that and we can build a team around it, but I need to see more before I think he is a starter. I thought 19 passes and run heavy is the way you set him up for success (very similar to Jones).

Loved arm strength, he had an good touch on the ball, and his tucking and running but a few under thrown balls and few others into double and triple coverage, hope that is just first game jitters and not his game IQ.

He threw 2 balls that were pass interference and weren't called, he went on the 5th because of his height and not talent. To me, he was the best QB of the draft.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I hope so but odds are against him. Nobody drafted after 5th has gone on to be a quality starter over the last two decades so I’d prefer to think of my self as pragmatic. Also calling him a short Daniel Jones isn’t negative, If he could give us Daniel Jones production I could live with that and we can build a team around it, but I need to see more before I think he is a starter. I thought 19 passes and run heavy is the way you set him up for success (very similar to Jones).

Loved arm strength, he had an good touch on the ball, and his tucking and running but a few under thrown balls and few others into double and triple coverage, hope that is just first game jitters and not his game IQ.

Howell wasn’t drafted after the fifth. He was the very first pick of the fifth. 144 overall. Not exactly Mr Irrelevant. Prescott was drafted 9 spots ahead of Howell.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Howell wasn’t drafted after the fifth. He was the very first pick of the fifth. 144 overall. Not exactly Mr Irrelevant. Prescott was drafted 9 spots ahead of Howell.

I meant 5th round and beyond. Dak is alo an exception and not the rule. Only him, Cousins and Kyle Orton have become long term starters out of 24 QBs drafted in the 4th in the last 20 years (Excluding Zappe and Ian Brook). That is a 12.5% hit rate, which is not great but probably expected. (There are a few decent back up QBs however) All I am saying is that The stats show the later the round the QB is drafted the less likely it is to hit. I am cautiously optimistic but that is all at this point.

QB drafts for any ones interest:
http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I hope so but odds are against him. Nobody drafted after 5th has gone on to be a quality starter over the last two decades so I’d prefer to think of my self as pragmatic. Also calling him a short Daniel Jones isn’t negative, If he could give us Daniel Jones production I could live with that and we can build a team around it, but I need to see more before I think he is a starter. I thought 19 passes and run heavy is the way you set him up for success (very similar to Jones).

Loved arm strength, he had an good touch on the ball, and his tucking and running but a few under thrown balls and few others into double and triple coverage, hope that is just first game jitters and not his game IQ.

Just a side note , i really don't understand why folks get wrapped around the axel on what someone was drafted. I can understand the day of the draft but being picked first round doesn't magically make you great. Teams tend to give more rope to a high draft pick because they spent so much draft capital on them.

It just grinds my gears when i hear oh X team got former first round pick from Y team. Great team Y probably drafted poorly and now they are unloading that player.

Some folks act like if a player was a first round pick they wear some magical shirt under their uniform but instead of a giant S it has a giant 1.

Where SH was drafted has zero to do with his abilities today.