trump the Criminal

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by Giantone

So what, you can believe it all you want(trump can) but you don't go about in that manor. If Georgia indicts him he could see jail time.

The issue will be the jury. It probably will be virtually impossible to find one that would be impartial (At least a quarter would convict no matter what and a quarter of them would acquit no matter what).

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by nonniey

The issue will be the jury. It probably will be virtually impossible to find one that would be impartial (At least a quarter would convict no matter what and a quarter of them would acquit no matter what).

I have faith , maybe I shouldn't but I do.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I have faith , maybe I shouldn't but I do.

Question - if you were selected to be a juror would you try to remove yourself from consideration?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Question - if you were selected to be a juror would you try to remove yourself from consideration?

No I wouldn't try but I wouldn't lie either.

[Giantone]

Why is this not a surprise?


https://news.yahoo.com/trump-era-par...101313769.html

Trump-era pardon recipients are increasingly back in legal jeopardy

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Why is this not a surprise?


https://news.yahoo.com/trump-era-par...101313769.html

Trump-era pardon recipients are increasingly back in legal jeopardy

Those are Trumped up charges!

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Those are Trumped up charges!

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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by nonniey

The issue will be the jury. It probably will be virtually impossible to find one that would be impartial (At least a quarter would convict no matter what and a quarter of them would acquit no matter what).

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...dbe29c2035fadd

Trump Probably Won’t Go to Jail
All of this shifts the playing field toward Trump in any coming investigation. There is a widespread cultural and legal expectation that ex-presidents are not charged, much less imprisoned. Indeed, if Trump went to jail, that would be unprecedented. And we should expect Trump to insist on this relentlessly: if previous presidents, even Nixon, did not go to jail, then why should he.
The extreme charges against Trump are the wildcard though. Trump was uniquely disloyal to the office. His corruption – such as using the White House for a political party convention or directing government business toward his hotels – was not unprecedented, even if it was unbecoming. The real issue is the insurrection charge. That directly violates the presidential oath of office, something not even Nixon did. If Americans find they have had enough of assumed presidential immunity, then Trump and his many abuses of power, culminating in an effort to subvert an election, would be a good place to start changing that norm.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by nonniey

The issue will be the jury. It probably will be virtually impossible to find one that would be impartial (At least a quarter would convict no matter what and a quarter of them would acquit no matter what).

Just want to point out I'm not alone in my thinking he might see time.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-fe...224535748.html


Former federal appeals court judge: Trump could be sentenced to prison
J. Michael Luttig, a prominent conservative attorney, thinks the crimes Trump may have committed in trying to overturn the election would require any judge to give him prison time.

“I don’t know that a district judge would have any choice but to sentence the former president to imprisonment under the terms and provisions of these various offenses,” retired U.S. Court of Appeals Judge J. Michael Luttig said in a wide-ranging interview on the Yahoo News “Skullduggery” podcast

Luttig, who for years was considered one of the leading conservative jurists in the country and who testified last summer as a star witness in the committee’s hearings, also said that he sees “poetic justice” in the panel’s investigation. In particular, he singled out the work of Vice Chair Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., who, despite losing a primary to a Trump-backed opponent, pressed the panel to make its criminal referral to the Justice Department, which recommended that the former president and others be investigated for violating four federal statutes in their efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

“The poetic justice of these historic hearings is that the president set out to destroy the January 6th committee and the political careers of its members,” said Luttig. “And it is the committee that will end the political career of the former president. It will have been Liz Cheney who ended Donald Trump's political career— his, not hers.”

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Just want to point out I'm not alone in my thinking he might see time.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-fe...224535748.html


Former federal appeals court judge: Trump could be sentenced to prison
J. Michael Luttig, a prominent conservative attorney, thinks the crimes Trump may have committed in trying to overturn the election would require any judge to give him prison time.

“I don’t know that a district judge would have any choice but to sentence the former president to imprisonment under the terms and provisions of these various offenses,” retired U.S. Court of Appeals Judge J. Michael Luttig said in a wide-ranging interview on the Yahoo News “Skullduggery” podcast

Luttig, who for years was considered one of the leading conservative jurists in the country and who testified last summer as a star witness in the committee’s hearings, also said that he sees “poetic justice” in the panel’s investigation. In particular, he singled out the work of Vice Chair Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., who, despite losing a primary to a Trump-backed opponent, pressed the panel to make its criminal referral to the Justice Department, which recommended that the former president and others be investigated for violating four federal statutes in their efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

“The poetic justice of these historic hearings is that the president set out to destroy the January 6th committee and the political careers of its members,” said Luttig. “And it is the committee that will end the political career of the former president. It will have been Liz Cheney who ended Donald Trump's political career— his, not hers.”

If he was found guilty yes of course it would warrant imprisonment (and yes I think he is guilty as sin). Problem still returns to getting a conviction and that will require an impartial jury and I just don't see that being a possibility.