Commies @ Vagiants GDT pt1

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by PorkSkins

That's a fallacious and irrelevant response. Heinicke runs 4.56 40 which is more than fast enough for a QB to be threat with his legs.

Ok whatever, being straight in a fast line is much different then scrambling ability

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Ok whatever, being straight in a fast line is much different then scrambling ability

For one, he's shown he can scramble. Lastly, you're not or rarely scrambling on designed run plays.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by PorkSkins

For one, he's shown he can scramble. Lastly, you're not or rarely scrambling on designed run plays.

Plain and simple he is not a very good QB, no other team in the nfl would start him

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Plain and simple he is not a very good QB, no other team in the nfl would start him

Maybe not. But you use him towards his strengths. Learn the game.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by PorkSkins

Maybe not. But you use him towards his strengths. Learn the game.

Pork, I like you and I'm glad you post here, but you make too many posts that imply that if you don't agree, whoever you disagree with, is flat out wrong and needs to learn the game. You don't have a monopoly on football knowledge.

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Pork, I like you and I'm glad you post here, but you make too many posts that imply that if you don't agree, whoever you disagree with, is flat out wrong and needs to learn the game. You don't have a monopoly on football knowledge.

I can say what I wanna say when I see fit. He doesn't know the game if he uses an example of Vick and Jackson when it comes to using or not using Heinicke per RPO.

If you're gonna play someone then play said player to their strengths. We're not doing that with Heinicke.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by PorkSkins

I can say what I wanna say when I see fit. He doesn't know the game if he uses an example of Vick and Jackson when it comes to using or not using Heinicke per RPO.

If you're gonna play someone then play said player to their strengths. We're not doing that with Heinicke.

I never said you can't post whatever you want. But just because you can post something, doesn't mean you should. That's all. I think a large majority of posters here are knowledgeable fans.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by PorkSkins

Maybe not. But you use him towards his strengths. Learn the game.

I agree with this. I don't think Scott Turner is doing enough to set the players in position to make plays.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by mooby

I agree with this. I don't think Scott Turner is doing enough to set the players in position to make plays.

It's weird, because I feel like we have no less than league average receivers and an above average RB room. But offense is still brutal to watch most times.

I rotate blame on that between the QBs/Turner/OLine.

Our offensive line at pass protection makes it very difficult for not great OC or QBs to be successful.

OLine should be the No. 1 off-season focus. Then base the draft around how the pre-draft off-season went.

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by mooby

I agree with this. I don't think Scott Turner is doing enough to set the players in position to make plays.

Does Heinicke has the arm strength of Hurts, Mariotta, or Daniel Jones? Nope. But he has more than enough athleticism to even periodically use him on RPO action. Make the defense honor him. One hesitation or false step by the end, backers, and/or safeties can result in reasonable to sizeable yardage.

Stop trying to routinely fancy him as some sort of drop back passer. Drop him him back periodically to keep the defense honest, but mix it up and allow Heinicke to use his legs.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by PorkSkins

Does Heinicke has the arm strength of Hurts, Mariotta, or Daniel Jones? Nope. But he has more than enough athleticism to even periodically use him on RPO action. Make the defense honor him. One hesitation or false step by the end, backers, and/or safeties can result in reasonable to sizeable yardage.

Stop trying to routinely fancy him as some sort of drop back passer. Drop him him back periodically to keep the defense honest, but mix it up and allow Heinicke to use his legs.

You can't drop back your QB periodically in the NFL. Can't hide your Qb. Could they use his legs more? I do think Scott could put in a few more waggles and boots and some more RO.

W/ Taylor I also think Scott could go back and put in some pure WCO plays w/ misdirection, play action and so forth. Some of those old Bill Walsh plays would work well w/ a weak armed QB. That stuff is dead now, but now sure why.