Vikings Post-game Thread

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by MTK

Only thing we know for sure is Wentz isn't the long term answer and neither is Heinicke. Is it Howell? No idea and we probably aren't going to find out this year. It's back to a serious QB hunt this offseason.

If we continue to lose and Howell isn't given a shot at some point, that would be malpractice, IMO. We need to see what he can do before we draft a QB in Round 1.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

If we continue to lose and Howell isn't given a shot at some point, that would be malpractice, IMO. We need to see what he can do before we draft a QB in Round 1.

I don't see this team falling on it's face to the point where Howell would get a chance.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

I don't see this team falling on it's face to the point where Howell would get a chance.

Oddly enough The Falcons game in a few weeks could be for the 7th seed

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by MTK

I don't see this team falling on it's face to the point where Howell would get a chance.

I don't predict it does, but I don't think it's entirely unlikely either...

[SFREDSKIN]

Some of you think Sweat is mediocre, sacking the QB isn’t everything. https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/...hyAHX1rltHY2wg

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I don't predict it does, but I don't think it's entirely unlikely either...

Unless there are some major injuries on D I don’t see it

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by MTK

Unless there are some major injuries on D I don’t see it

Let's not forget so quickly how dysfunctional this D was early on this year...
I'm happily impressed by how they dramatically improved recently, and I'm cautiously confident they can keep going this way, but I don't know that I have enough confidence in Ron and his staff to completely exclude the potentiality of an ugly unravelling.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Let's not forget so quickly how dysfunctional this D was early on this year...
I'm happily impressed by how they dramatically improved recently, and I'm cautiously confident they can keep going this way, but I don't know that I have enough confidence in Ron and his staff to completely exclude the potentiality of an ugly unravelling.

Any improvements on the defense can be easily undone by a terrible offense. I think holding the Vikes to 7 points for 3 quarters was a good job. But the offense was only able to come up with 17 points and your defense can only hold for so long.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Any improvements on the defense can be easily undone by a terrible offense. I think holding the Vikes to 7 points for 3 quarters was a good job. But the offense was only able to come up with 17 points and your defense can only hold for so long.

Holding the Vikings to 7 points for 3 quarters, and 20 points overall, and not winning that game was a gut punch.

GB, MIN, and IND all give up about 20-21 points per game on average. We averaged 20 points per game against those teams over the three weeks Heinicke has started. That tells you that the output of this offense with Heinicke - is average at best. Going to have to get that number up to 24-25 down the stretch to have a shot at a wild card spot.

5 of the last 8 games will be against teams that rank in the top 10 with regard to points allowed per game.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

If we continue to lose and Howell isn't given a shot at some point, that would be malpractice, IMO. We need to see what he can do before we draft a QB in Round 1.

We don't need to see what Howell can do, Ron needs to see what he can do. Which he does, in practice. If Howell is impressing in practice, throwing accurate dimes, showing a great knowledge of the offense and the rules, hitting receivers all day and making the defense look silly by all means Ron should see what he has.

But if Ron already watches the film of Howell in practice and it's generally unimpressive, no I don't need to see Howell in a game to determine if he should be the starter next year. I trust Ron's judgement - if he says Howell isn't ready that means he's not ready.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by mooby

We don't need to see what Howell can do, Ron needs to see what he can do. Which he does, in practice. If Howell is impressing in practice, throwing accurate dimes, showing a great knowledge of the offense and the rules, hitting receivers all day and making the defense look silly by all means Ron should see what he has.

But if Ron already watches the film of Howell in practice and it's generally unimpressive, no I don't need to see Howell in a game to determine if he should be the starter next year. I trust Ron's judgement - if he says Howell isn't ready that means he's not ready.

Exactly.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Exactly.

Just to add on - it took our now-competent first-round linebacker almost a year and a half of his career to finally understand the NFL enough to make plays - and you guys think throwing a 5th round rookie qb to the wolves 10 weeks into his pro career is a smart move?

[EdmundDorf]

Cant help but think that if Howell looked better than Heinicke in practice he would be out there. Would seem to indicate that he looks worse than Heinicke which is a disturbing thought given how Heinicke played on Sunday. With prospect of new owners coming in Ron is very much on the hottest of seats, it may not ultimately save him but winning would be his only chance of sticking around.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

Cant help but think that if Howell looked better than Heinicke in practice he would be out there. Would seem to indicate that he looks worse than Heinicke which is a disturbing thought given how Heinicke played on Sunday. With prospect of new owners coming in Ron is very much on the hottest of seats, it may not ultimately save him but winning would be his only chance of sticking around.

i wouldn't really say that. My son just started high school and the sports he plays freshman are very under valued and some are skill wise better then the upper classman, it really boils down to experience and that is Sam's biggest weakness right now.

Unless Sam is Burrows his rookie year you run with the been there done that guy until any hope of this season has been lost.