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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

Huh. Are we against bone-sawing US residents on foreign soil now? I feel like certain people here (and one former US president) were suspiciously silent when it happened.

Actually I'm not giving Trump enough credit, here are his exact words on the subject.

Paraphrasing here - let's make it short. "The 17 Saudis who did the terrible crime will be punished - but we'll never know if it was sanctioned by the highest levels of the Saudi government. They have denied involvement, and that's good enough for me. Our lying sack of shit intelligence community can believe whatever they want - I trust my friend MBS."



Based upon the aforementioned quote, it seems what he is saying is "low oil prices are more important than a US resident getting bone-sawed on foreign soil." To his credit, it seems Biden doesn't disagree even though we aren't getting the same luxury of low oil prices.

You know I’m speaking about the coverage from the Washington Post and their obvious hypocrisy here, right? In fact, I can call out the entire coverage of the media being hypocritical…you get mad a Trump statements, but is he lying to you?

Who’s lying here? Trump saying the rush to judgment is premature for the Saudis or Joe saying he wouldn’t visit, would make the Saudis a pariah and re-evaluate the relationship? You get mad when Trump took positions you don’t like but told you…on the other hand you rather be lied too and then silent when your president does the samething and approved a weapons package for them.

“Luxury of low gas prices”…wrong Mooby. Biden vs Trump energy policy…Trump’s energy independence with low prices or Biden regulatory, green energy policy with sky high energy costs.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

You know I’m speaking about the coverage from the Washington Post and their obvious hypocrisy here, right? In fact, I can call out the entire coverage of the media being hypocritical…you get mad a Trump statements, but is he lying to you?

Who’s lying here? Trump saying the rush to judgment is premature for the Saudis or Joe saying he wouldn’t visit, would make the Saudis a pariah and re-evaluate the relationship? You get mad when Trump took positions you don’t like but told you…on the other hand you rather be lied too and then silent when your president does the samething and approved a weapons package for them.

“Luxury of low gas prices”…wrong Mooby. Biden vs Trump energy policy…Trump’s energy independence with low prices or Biden regulatory, green energy policy with sky high energy costs.

You're actually right Chico, while I feel bad for Kashoggi and his family and it's detestable that MBS and co. were able to get away with it, as someone who drives a metric fuck-ton high gas prices have way more of an impact on my life than Kashoggi did. So I don't exactly blame Biden or Trump for not punishing him. But in the moment? Could Trump have publicly called out MBS for doing it? Sure. I think initially MBS might've been upset that Trump called him on his bs, but the relationship would still be intact because the US and Saudi are way too interconnected for business not to continue as usual. Biden could've done the same thing - but he's already getting a bad report card so the retaliation would've been one more negative on it - and you guys already have a ton of negative press to work with, so I understand why he didn't.

I'm not gonna debate you on energy - every major oil company has doubled their profits in the last year and you are content saying it's Bidens fault for not letting them do whatever they want. I stand where I stand, you stand where you stand. I'm sure they appreciate you for being a loyal soldier for free. It is what it is.