Ukraine mega thread

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I am not shocked at all by these numbers. I think in terms of Russia I do agree but the precedent has been set on the handling of Putin by the two prior administrations and Western Europe. We handled his transgressions poorly for over a decade and now we are acting like parents going "I don't know what the problem is! I took away his phone."

I just don’t agree here. George W was tough on Russia…john McCain and Mitt Romney ( Obama: 1980s called they want their foreign policy back) both Presidential nominations and leaders in the GOP both extremely tough and hawkish on Russia. While Trump disgracefully praised Putin multiple times, his positions and policy were tough on Russia. I’ve outlined it above and he placed the sanctions on Nordstream 2 originally.

But when I say check the record on Biden, he’s praised Russia as well in the past and even considered him an ally while in the Obama administration. Democrats used Russia as a scapegoat for 2016 that’s where I see the basis for their emerging hate of Russia. Here is Biden in the Obama administration:

US Vice President Joe Biden announced Obama’s new policy at the February 2009 Munich Security Conference: ‘It’s time to press the reset button and to revisit the many areas where we can and should be working together with Russia.’6 At the heart of this reset was prudent expectations management, using moderate rhetoric to create a set of achievable goals. The focus was interest-based pragmatism and a restrained policy toward Russia’s neighbours and toward Russia’s internal politics.