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[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by mooby

Well since you nailed it with the 1 idea I'll go with term limits for all motherfuckers. Congress, Supreme Court, el Presidente, idgaf. Term limits for school board motherfuckers. Fuck 'em all.

I hope term limits is in everyone's top 5. If not top 3.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I hope term limits is in everyone's top 5. If not top 3.

It used to be in my top 5 until one of my friends who worked with Giffords on the Hill explained the downside. Term limits for congress runs a risk that the unelected congressional staff would eventually acquire all the power - ie they'd become Mandarins. They already wield substantial power on the hill that most of us aren't even aware of.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by nonniey

It used to be until one of my friends who worked with Giffords on the Hill explained the downside. Term limits for congress runs a risk that the unelected congressional staff would eventually acquire all the power - ie they'd become Mandarins. They already wield substantial power on the hill that most of us aren't even aware of.

Not saying this is wrong, because I've never heard this perspective before. Genuine question, how would unelected congressional staff acquire more power from term limits?

In general, there are definitely way too many unelected people with way too much power on this country. So I wouldn't doubt above could be true to an extent. But would it be worse than getting life long teet suckers like McConnell, Pelosi, Schumer, etc., elected forever?

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Not saying this is wrong, because I've never heard this perspective before. Genuine question, how would unelected congressional staff acquire more power from term limits?

In general, there are definitely way too many unelected people with way too much power on this country. So I wouldn't doubt above could be true to an extent. But would it be worse than getting life long teet suckers like McConnell, Pelosi, Schumer, etc., elected forever?

The way it was explained to me (this is the boiled down version) explanation is that Senators and Congressmen already rely on professional Congressional staff to navigate the Byzantian legislative rules and processes. Experienced members of Congress understand these rules and processes and are not dependent (or as dependent) on staff as are the newer members.

My friend painted a bleak picture of how powerful the staff currently is and how much worse it could be.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by nonniey

The way it was explained to me (this is the boiled down version) explanation is that Senators and Congressmen already rely on professional Congressional staff to navigate the Byzantian legislative rules and processes. Experienced members of Congress understand these rules and processes and are not dependent (or as dependent) on staff as are the newer members.



My friend painted a bleak picture of how powerful the staff currently is and how much worse it could be.

I understand that, but any term limit legislation could also set limits on staffers service in Congress. Not saying they would be kicked out of government service just limited in the time on Capital Hill.

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[sdskinsfan2001]

Pick a side and read about the Congressional Budget Office's score of the Build Back Better Bill. Then read the other side. No wonder why we are so divided.

Watching a conservative show, shockingly I know, and even less shockingly, they talk about how expensive it will be and now we're finally all screwed.

Then I Google'd it, and the CNN's/etcs., tell me how it's all amazing and is basically free, and it's only evil republicans lying about it.

Neither are true.

Divide and conquer. Evil geniuses (for themselves). Politics now controls the MSM on both sides, and it's fucking terrible for our country.

That's my politics for the weekend.

Fuck Dallas!!

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Pick a side and read about the Congressional Budget Office's score of the Build Back Better Bill. Then read the other side. No wonder why we are so divided.

Watching a conservative show, shockingly I know, and even less shockingly, they talk about how expensive it will be and now we're finally all screwed.

Then I Google'd it, and the CNN's/etcs., tell me how it's all amazing and is basically free, and it's only evil republicans lying about it.

Neither are true.

Divide and conquer. Evil geniuses (for themselves). Politics now controls the MSM on both sides, and it's fucking terrible for our country.

That's my politics for the weekend.

Fuck Dallas!!

Have to sell their product and lately they do that by building rage in their audiences. This was a good example of it. Build Back Better is basically dead as Manchin won't support it yet both sides of the media keep beating the dead horse.