Do you think Rivera will successfully rebuild ?

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by mooby

It's such a dumb discussion. Fire Ron and your options are guys like Jim Haslett, Jim Caldwell, Jeff Fisher, etc. because no respectable coach is going to want to come here and neither is the next up-and-coming coordinator.

Completely agree. We have to stick with him at the very least one more season, and unless next season is an absolute disaster too, I'd say give him one more season after that.

This being said. I don't want to hear Ron talk about Chase and Montez getting chipped more than the other guys anymore... Last week he went into a super long explanation about how he had somebody "analyticly look at" their 3rd and long, they discovered this team had a higher chip percentage on 3rd and 7+ ... and then how they were seeing more play action than other defenses... And again this week, he was more critical of Chase, but he mentioned this chip percentage stats again...

This is such a looser quote. Your defense is failing because the other teams are mean and chip your edge rushers and call some play action ?! OMG this is so unfair let's make a complaint to the league !

[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Completely agree. We have to stick with him at the very least one more season, and unless next season is an absolute disaster too, I'd say give him one more season after that.

This being said. I don't want to hear Ron talk about Chase and Montez getting chipped more than the other guys anymore... Last week he went into a super long explanation about how he had somebody "analyticly look at" their 3rd and long, they discovered this team had a higher chip percentage on 3rd and 7+ ... and then how they were seeing more play action than other defenses... And again this week, he was more critical of Chase, but he mentioned this chip percentage stats again...

This is such a looser quote. Your defense is failing because the other teams are mean and chip your edge rushers and call some play action ?! OMG this is so unfair let's make a complaint to the league !

They chip our edge rushers because it works. simple offensive game planning. The weakness in our defense is a open book to the rest of the league. Play action stupefies our secondary.

Has anyone on here actually suggested firing Ron? I get impatience, some of the decisions being made this year are perplexing to say the least, and there is not a lot of progress being shown but you have to give the guy some time. He has a large number of losing seasons because he has been asked to turnaround two losing franchises.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Completely agree. We have to stick with him at the very least one more season, and unless next season is an absolute disaster too, I'd say give him one more season after that.

This being said. I don't want to hear Ron talk about Chase and Montez getting chipped more than the other guys anymore... Last week he went into a super long explanation about how he had somebody "analyticly look at" their 3rd and long, they discovered this team had a higher chip percentage on 3rd and 7+ ... and then how they were seeing more play action than other defenses... And again this week, he was more critical of Chase, but he mentioned this chip percentage stats again...

This is such a looser quote. Your defense is failing because the other teams are mean and chip your edge rushers and call some play action ?! OMG this is so unfair let's make a complaint to the league !

The whole chip thing - I mean for every play in this league there is something that will counter that. There is no single play that works 100% of the time.

So the question isn't "can Chase beat the chip" it should be "why hasn't JDR/Sam Mills taught Chase how to beat the chip, and/or called plays to counteract the chip?"