Fresh Start Political Thread

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Also in regards to the infrastructure thing I mainly blame the Republicans who suddenly are fiscally responsible again since Trump left. No bill they are fighting the progressives on is a trillion dollar tax break for the super rich so…..:

Again? So now how can you blame the Republicans? The infrastructure bill is a bipartisan bill passed in the Senate. It is the progressives in the House that are holding that bill hostage until their own separate (non infrastructure) bill gets passed in reconciliation.

It is the same I want the whole loaf or nothing option that Washington has been operating on for the last 13 years.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Again? So now how can you blame the Republicans? The infrastructure bill is a bipartisan bill passed in the Senate. It is the progressives in the House that are holding that bill hostage until their own separate (non infrastructure) bill gets passed in reconciliation.

It is the same I want the whole loaf or nothing option that Washington has been operating on for the last 13 years.

Wrong. It is Mitch No Connell and the Republicans also not taking up or even considering anything else - and pretending to suddenly be fiscally responsible. He is very fiscally responsible when it is convenient. So much more good for the American people could come from what the progressives want passed than the trillion we gave to the rich right under McConnells nose.
Yes pass the infrastructure bill. But there is more good that can be done with our money than helping rich people and that wasn’t a problem for Mitch who is suddenly fiscally responsible. Cant just ignore that whole side of things.

Again though if you are the progressive wing take the infrastructure bill because it is better than nothing. Still more to the picture than meets the eye though. And as usual road block McConnell is talking out of another side of his ass the fuckin hypocritical lying sack of Shit. His suddenly fiscally responsible self is very reminiscent of his we wont push through a Supreme Court justice in an election year self is all im saying. Reminiscent of the we don’t need to investigate the insurrection self. He is the most partisan hack of all time. And bipartisanship seems to be the issue here.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Wrong. It is Mitch No Connell and the Republicans also not taking up or even considering anything else - and pretending to suddenly be fiscally responsible. He is very fiscally responsible when it is convenient. So much more good for the American people could come from what the progressives want passed than the trillion we gave to the rich right under McConnells nose.
Yes pass the infrastructure bill. But there is more good that can be done with our money than helping rich people and that wasn’t a problem for Mitch who is suddenly fiscally responsible. Cant just ignore that whole side of things.

Again though if you are the progressive wing take the infrastructure bill because it is better than nothing. Still more to the picture than meets the eye though. And as usual road block McConnell is talking out of another side of his ass the fuckin hypocritical lying sack of Shit. His suddenly fiscally responsible self is very reminiscent of his we wont push through a Supreme Court justice in an election year self is all im saying. Reminiscent of the we don’t need to investigate the insurrection self. He is the most partisan hack of all time. And bipartisanship seems to be the issue here.

You do know that Mitch McConnel voted for the infrastructure bill, right?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by nonniey

You do know that Mitch McConnel voted for the infrastructure bill, right?

You are circumventing the big picture. Of course he voted for it. With the caveat that nothing else would be considered- whst the progressives wanted - because he is suddenly and conveniently fiscally responsible. Now pick up with my last post.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

You are circumventing the big picture. Of course he voted for it. With the caveat that nothing else would be considered- whst the progressives wanted - because he is suddenly and conveniently fiscally responsible. Now pick up with my last post.

You also know they could raise the debt ceiling too without a GOP vote, right?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

You also know they could raise the debt ceiling too without a GOP vote, right?

Lol! Three times with Democratic support under Trump it was raised. Now it is on us so that the right can spin it like we are the reckless spenders? Ok.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Lol! Three times with Democratic support under Trump it was raised. Now it is on us so that the right can spin it like we are the reckless spenders? Ok.

From the Washington Post today. Schumer could raise it without any GOP help

Why doesn’t he?

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Lol! Three times with Democratic support under Trump it was raised. Now it is on us so that the right can spin it like we are the reckless spenders? Ok.

The Republicans are either liars or cowards when it comes to the national debt.

Either liars and don't give a shit about it and will keep raising it, while only pretending to make an issue of it when they aren't in charge.

Or pathetic fucking cowards that won't stand up and fight and say we can't keep raising the debt and in-fact need to reduce it. And it would be a fight, because this would mean government would actually have to budget, reduce spending, etc.

Not really sure which one is worse. The party has failed America.

Our national debt is $28.43 trillion. That is 28,430,000,000,000. It's so many zeroes I had to Google how to even put it in actual number form.

It's almost like it's so big most people just don't bother caring about it, like it's no big deal. This should be a big fucking deal to every American, no matter how you vote.