Fresh Start Political Thread

[nonniey]

So I was reading in a few different forums that people are attacking/blaming (strongly too) Sinema and Manchin for the delay in getting the infrastructure bill approved and I was wondering where this board's posters stand on this take?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by nonniey

So I was reading in a few different forums that people are attacking/blaming (strongly too) Sinema and Manchin for the delay in getting the infrastructure bill approved and I was wondering where this board's posters stand on this take?

Well Manchin is up against a red base. Sinema is not. So I mainly blame her.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Well Manchin is up against a red base. Sinema is not. So I mainly blame her.

So that is what I don't get - how can you blame her or Manchin? Sinema, Manchin and a bipartisan group of Senators developed and passed the infrastructure bill in the Senate. It's the progressive's that won't pass it in the House unless/until the the trillions that were taken out in the compromise are passed in a separate bill by the Senate.

Essentially they are holding the 1.2T infrastructure bill hostage until they get what they want. And you blame Sinema, for holding up her own bill?

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by nonniey

So I was reading in a few different forums that people are attacking/blaming (strongly too) Sinema and Manchin for the delay in getting the infrastructure bill approved and I was wondering where this board's posters stand on this take?

I havent read up on any details in a few months when we broke the deal down. Seems like its half hard transportation and half "green deal".

After the covid relief bills, Im not sure 3.5T is digestible.

I dont believe the "it will pay for itself" thing but find it funny Rs are harping on that now when they knowingly went along w the lie Trumps tax bill would pay for itself and not mostly benefit the uber rich and corporations.

Manchin is doing what his voters voted for him to do. I like Manchin. Seems to be "old school" in terms of decorum and respect for statesmanship. Something lost on both sides. Rs have broken and abolished more of the unwritten traditions that fostered bi-partisanship than Ds though.

Sinema - dont know much about her but seems she is not following her platform that got her elected and her voters could rightfully be mad there.

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Id hope a 1.5T to 2T bill can be done.