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Old 08-16-2021, 12:31 PM   #1
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Trump wanted a withdrawl.



Biden wanted a withdrawl.



Americans overwhelmingly wanted a withdrawl.



We withdrew.



People trying to criticize Biden seem to have an agenda. Whats new.
I haven't followed the Afghan situation, but count me in the group that wanted a withdrawal.

If a country/citizenry is fighting an oppressive regime and needs aid, we should do that. BUT it has to be the citizens of their own country first. We are not an empire regardless of how some international media portray us.

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Old 08-16-2021, 03:01 PM   #2
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I haven't followed the Afghan situation, but count me in the group that wanted a withdrawal.

If a country/citizenry is fighting an oppressive regime and needs aid, we should do that. BUT it has to be the citizens of their own country first. We are not an empire regardless of how some international media portray us.

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Best solution I read was the US should have focused on working on drawing new territories 20 years ago. So if Afghanistan was like 5 separate tribes, they would work on new borders so each area gets their own autonomy. Like the US would be divided to east coast, southern, mid america, north, west coast.

urban modern people would be in the Kabul area. then different tribes would run their region to whatever degree of taliban they do.

Afghanistan seems like they have some drastically different people .. island of condensed urban modern people surrounded by rural pro taliban.
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Old 08-16-2021, 04:29 PM   #3
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I haven't followed the Afghan situation, but count me in the group that wanted a withdrawal.

If a country/citizenry is fighting an oppressive regime and needs aid, we should do that. BUT it has to be the citizens of their own country first. We are not an empire regardless of how some international media portray us.

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This. You can lead a horse to water.

The main problem I have with Biden is him blaming Trump publicly. That is exactly the kind of shit I hate about Trump. just take responsibility whether Trump did things that made it worse or not.

As for our entire history there and not just the last week…80 billion dollars and twenty years worth of aid and training and for what? A thirty minute fight ? We were never over there to liberate the people froM an oppressive regime anyway. We were there for oil, poppy, minerals. Funny how whenever we are liberating people they happen to live on a mountain of precious commodity.

I find myself wondering why they did not get all the people out first and than the military last?
Obviously they had their reasons. They did greatly underestimate the Taliban and greatly overestimate the security forces.
This article is from a week ago and they were worried Kabul would be overrun in 6 months maybe. Some said 90 days. But this was lightning.
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Old 08-16-2021, 06:20 PM   #4
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This. You can lead a horse to water.

The main problem I have with Biden is him blaming Trump publicly. That is exactly the kind of shit I hate about Trump. just take responsibility whether Trump did things that made it worse or not.

As for our entire history there and not just the last week…80 billion dollars and twenty years worth of aid and training and for what? A thirty minute fight ? We were never over there to liberate the people froM an oppressive regime anyway. We were there for oil, poppy, minerals. Funny how whenever we are liberating people they happen to live on a mountain of precious commodity.

I find myself wondering why they did not get all the people out first and than the military last?
Obviously they had their reasons. They did greatly underestimate the Taliban and greatly overestimate the security forces.
This article is from a week ago and they were worried Kabul would be overrun in 6 months maybe. Some said 90 days. But this was lightning.
Imagine not understanding policy, strategy and execution….brushing it aside when things outside the scope

Jfc…leadership…
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Old 08-16-2021, 09:48 PM   #5
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Imagine not understanding policy, strategy and execution….brushing it aside when things outside the scope

Jfc…leadership…

Why can’t Biden be more like Trump and you. Stern yet compassionate. Wise but willing to listen to others. Thank God this country has you both to lead us through this dark time. WE WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN…….AGAIN!
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Why can’t Biden be more like Trump and you. Stern yet compassionate. Wise but willing to listen to others. Thank God this country has you both to lead us through this dark time. WE WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN…….AGAIN!



Anyone else think it's laughable that chico now trust all media source's???
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Old 08-17-2021, 08:21 AM   #7
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Anyone else think it's laughable that chico now trust all media source's???

I find almost everything about Chico laughable
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