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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Insane …here you go:

The @WSJ editors accurately, succinctly damn @POTUS @JoeBiden. When Taliban violated the Doha agreement —premised on a negotiated power sharing— the U.S. was free to keep Bagram, it’s 2500 troops and NATO’s 5000, to use air power. He could have saved thousands. He chose not to.

To say trump or trump plan is simply laughable.

He fucking chose NOT to enforce the negotiated agreement. Also the Pelosi receipts from disagreeing with trump plan and then endorsing Biden plan the withdrawal from Afghanistan are widely available online.

Also, it’s not criticizing coming from the political pundits…but have you seen the worldwide condemnation from around the world?

You lost me at negotiated agreement with the Taliban. Is that like the handshake agreement with N Korea?
So Trumps plan and Bidens plans were totally different and Pelosi is insane because she sided with one and not the other and they were both the same.
The only difference is trump would have done this in Early May and you would have been singing his praises. Nobody, not Trump or Biden or anyone thought the trained Afghans we left were going to fold in 30 minutes.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

You lost me at negotiated agreement with the Taliban. Is that like the handshake agreement with N Korea?
So Trumps plan and Bidens plans were totally different and Pelosi is insane because she sided with one and not the other and they were both the same.
The only difference is trump would have done this in Early May and you would have been singing his praises. Nobody, not Trump or Biden or anyone thought the trained Afghans we left were going to fold in 30 minutes.

Gen Milley and Biden contradict this premise with statements made by made by them in July, both exactly state the Afghanistan military was absolutely ready and Biden said Taliban would not overtake the Afghanistan administration.

So start there.

Also Kamala Harris has to own this as well as Polictico has an article from April stating she was also the leading voice in the planning of the withdrawal.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Gen Milley and Biden contradict this premise with statements made by made by them in July, both exactly state the Afghanistan military was absolutely ready and Biden said Taliban would not overtake the Afghanistan administration.

So start there.

Also Kamala Harris has to own this as well as Polictico has an article from April stating she was also the leading voice in the planning of the withdrawal.

Chico if Trump did this: FUCK AFGHANISTAN BRING OUR TROOPS HOME. AMERICA FIRST!

Chico now : FUCK BIDEN! SAVE THE AFGHANISTAN PEOPLE!

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by punch it in

"....... Nobody, not Trump or Biden or anyone thought the trained Afghans we left were going to fold in 30 minutes.

Stop saying this as just about everybody knew this, certainly the military and the Intelligence community. Issue was the politicians didn't want to listen to what they were being told (which unfortunately seems to be the rule vice the exception).

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Stop saying this as just about everybody knew this, certainly the military and the Intelligence community. Issue was the politicians didn't want to listen to what they were being told.

Mooby is right. You just pick the opposite side of whatever anyone says. Getting tiresome to even have a discussion with you.


You do the same thing in the coronavirus thread. Every one of your posts starts with either “you’re wrong” or “here are the facts”. Sorry but ever since you said “masks don’t help” you lost all credibility as the omniscient one on this board.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Mooby is right. You just pick the opposite side of whatever anyone says. Getting tiresome to even have a discussion with you.


You do the same thing in the coronavirus thread. Every one of your posts starts with either “you’re wrong” or “here are the facts”. Sorry but ever since you said “masks don’t help” you lost all credibility as the omniscient one on this board.

The issue is I'm a conservative Republican - which puts me on an opposing side of Trumper's and you woke crowd. I've been consistent in my postings. Can't help it if my arrows are too damn accurate for your comfort levels.

(Oh and BTW I didn't say masks don't help I said they don't offer much protection from one from catching if they don't have it, but they do limit one who has it from spreading it).

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by nonniey

The issue is I'm a conservative Republican - which puts me on an opposing side of Trumper's and you woke crowd. I've been consistent in my postings. Can't help it if my arrows are too damn accurate for your comfort levels.

Lol. Ok buddy. At least now I understand why u think u know everything. You have put yourself in a neat little box in the middle and generalized everyone else. Woke = mask wearers. Must be a nice place to live. Please let me know if there are any openings in “del boca know it all”

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Lol. Ok buddy. At least now I understand why u think u know everything. You have put yourself in a neat little box in the middle and generalized everyone else. Woke = mask wearers. Must be a nice place to live. Please let me know if there are any openings in “del boca know it all”

BTW - a follow up that supports my point about politicians ignoring what they were told (not unique to Biden by any means).

"....But over the objections of military leaders who warned that the Afghan government would collapse without U.S. security assistance, Biden decided in April to end military involvement by September...."

Oh and stop with the anti masker crap I've already pointed out I'm not an anti-masker - just realistic on what they can do (Although I guess in your mind that would make me an anti-masker). Oh damn this was a way of changing the subject because it wasn't going to well for you re intelligence and I fell for it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...us/8142482002/

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by nonniey

BTW - a follow up that supports my point about politicians ignoring what they were told (not unique to Biden by any means).

"....But over the objections of military leaders who warned that the Afghan government would collapse without U.S. security assistance, Biden decided in April to end military involvement by September...."

Oh and stop with the anti masker crap I've already pointed out I'm not an anti-masker - just realistic on what they can do (Although I guess in your mind that would make me an anti-masker).

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...us/8142482002/

Just open your own thread called “ im
Right and your wrong even when we agree” and keep arguing with yourself. I’ve had enough.