Fresh Start Political Thread

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

That is a great question. I honestly don’t know. I like Hogan for the Republican nomination but like nonniey said I don’t think he would get the nomination. If he was a politician in my home state he would have a D next to his name. Ideally I want an environmental conservative but that seems to be toxic at the national level

Environmental Conservative??? Is this someone who is environmental friendly but uses common sense when it comes to energy issues (ie supports clean fossil fuel efforts, US development of fossil fuels instead of forcing them to be developed by dirtier countries(Keystone) etc?)

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Environmental Conservative??? Is this someone who is environmental friendly but uses common sense when it comes to energy issues (ie supports clean fossil fuel efforts, US development of fossil fuels instead of forcing them to be developed by dirtier countries(Keystone) etc?)

Why is it always energy issues that republicans are so worried about? Clean fossil fuels? a bit oxymoronic but I would be in favor of natural gas production. Keystone is a joke, a grand total of a couple dozen long term jobs, no impact on our gas prices. Prior to my current job I worked on the EIS for some national and regional pipelines they are a racket that benefits the production companies and politicians only.

You find me a Republican (or a non progressive democrat for that matter) that will eliminate coal, create a more than fair economic package for the coal workers (not the corporations) for the impact to their current career, would be willing to move keystone off of native lands, internalize the health and environmental costs of petroleum and eliminate the 14% federally guaranteed profits that companies get just for building a pipeline through FERC and I would be more than interested at looking at where they stand on other issues.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Why is it always energy issues that republicans are so worried about? Clean fossil fuels? a bit oxymoronic but I would be in favor of natural gas production. Keystone is a joke, a grand total of a couple dozen long term jobs, no impact on our gas prices. Prior to my current job I worked on the EIS for some national and regional pipelines they are a racket that benefits the production companies and politicians only.

You find me a Republican (or a non progressive democrat for that matter) that will eliminate coal, create a more than fair economic package for the coal workers (not the corporations) for the impact to their current career, would be willing to move keystone off of native lands, internalize the health and environmental costs of petroleum and eliminate the 14% federally guaranteed profits that companies get just for building a pipeline through FERC and I would be more than interested at looking at where they stand on other issues.

The Nixon nuclear plan would have reduced emissions substantially. We would beat bench marks 20 years ago.

Also…have you seen the China chart of coal plants planned out? And what are in use now?

When it’s comes to the environment, tell me what we need to do to stop China..the genocide, plague creating shithole it is

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

The Nixon nuclear plan would have reduced emissions substantially. We would beat bench marks 20 years ago.

Also…have you seen the China chart of coal plants planned out? And what are in use now?

When it’s comes to the environment, tell me what we need to do to stop China..the genocide, plague creating shithole it is

Nuclear while very expensive would have been good IMO. With China I guess the good news is they reached peak coal a few years ago. They use a type of coal called sub bituminous which is very high sulfur. I would love for United States to put pressure on corporations to use more sustainable measures if they are manufacturing overseas. I have never understood why we aren’t more aggressive there. I thought trump tariffs were a good step but where he failed was to not take US ag subsidies away from soy and over to fruit and vegetables that would have increased food security here and off set export tariffs in play by China. I also wish we would take a hard stance on genocide. The recent shift in US military support in Guam including long range bombers is fine but I think we all know is a bluff.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Adam Kinzinger 2024

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Nuclear while very expensive would have been good IMO. With China I guess the good news is they reached peak coal a few years ago. They use a type of coal called sub bituminous which is very high sulfur. I would love for United States to put pressure on corporations to use more sustainable measures if they are manufacturing overseas. I have never understood why we aren’t more aggressive there. I thought trump tariffs were a good step but where he failed was to not take US ag subsidies away from soy and over to fruit and vegetables that would have increased food security here and off set export tariffs in play by China. I also wish we would take a hard stance on genocide. The recent shift in US military support in Guam including long range bombers is fine but I think we all know is a bluff.

Nuclear stigma then was tough to overcome then. Hindsight, but it was forward thinking…maybe even progressive?

Energy policy is soooo critical IMO. We are so spoiled here but it’s critical to the nation as if affects so many parts of our life every single day. It’s key cost component in everything.

The green new deal stuff is completely insane and ridiculous to think we can simply lift and shift broad policies that affects so much in a short amount of time. Innovation isn’t stopping and green technology is a priority, but not the for reason everyone thinks.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Why is it always energy issues that republicans are so worried about? Clean fossil fuels? a bit oxymoronic but I would be in favor of natural gas production. Keystone is a joke, a grand total of a couple dozen long term jobs, no impact on our gas prices. Prior to my current job I worked on the EIS for some national and regional pipelines they are a racket that benefits the production companies and politicians only.

You find me a Republican (or a non progressive democrat for that matter) that will eliminate coal, create a more than fair economic package for the coal workers (not the corporations) for the impact to their current career, would be willing to move keystone off of native lands, internalize the health and environmental costs of petroleum and eliminate the 14% federally guaranteed profits that companies get just for building a pipeline through FERC and I would be more than interested at looking at where they stand on other issues.

Our chances of ever agreeing with each other on energy is 0%. But if we were in charge, I bet we would get something done.

That being said - Free all the energyl! I want it all! Every form, maximize it. We're no where close to getting rid of oil or coal. All we are doing by pretending like we can is just giving more power to China and other competitors. Americans just aren't realistic about where everything comes from, imo.