Let's revisit the 2018 draft

[Schneed10]

I think we're not just underrating Tim Settle, but seriously underrating Tim Settle. He's a starting caliber player, just buried on the depth chart behind two first rounders from Alabama, and a when-healthy 2nd only to Aaron Donald interior pass rusher.

You could make an argument that the best thing for the team is to trade Allen or Payne now and let Settle play. I don't think you lose much.

Back to the topic - because Settle is so good the draft can't be viewed as anything less than a B-. They say if you get two starters out of a draft, you've done well. We got Payne and I count Settle as a starting caliber player.

But they deserve to be dinged seriously for Guice because he dropped for character reasons, and it turned out to be completely true. 2nd round is high for a RB in the first place, and if he's got character concerns then it's even harder to make a profit on the selection.

The Christian pick is annoying too because the guy was clearly never strong enough. You can teach technique. It's a lot harder to move the needle on strength and speed, and impossible to move it on size.

I'll go B-. Settle is a genuine gem, he saves what could have been a D.

[CrazyCanuck]

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[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think we're not just underrating Tim Settle, but seriously underrating Tim Settle. He's a starting caliber player, just buried on the depth chart behind two first rounders from Alabama, and a when-healthy 2nd only to Aaron Donald interior pass rusher.

You could make an argument that the best thing for the team is to trade Allen or Payne now and let Settle play. I don't think you lose much.


I'll go B-. Settle is a genuine gem, he saves what could have been a D.

Couldn't agree more with the bolded part. Package Payne and Scherff and go get Rogers, or sell em individually for some high draft picks. Use an abundance of strength at one position (saves money and gets picks) to solve issues in areas of weakness.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think we're not just underrating Tim Settle, but seriously underrating Tim Settle. He's a starting caliber player, just buried on the depth chart behind two first rounders from Alabama, and a when-healthy 2nd only to Aaron Donald interior pass rusher.

You could make an argument that the best thing for the team is to trade Allen or Payne now and let Settle play. I don't think you lose much.

Back to the topic - because Settle is so good the draft can't be viewed as anything less than a B-. They say if you get two starters out of a draft, you've done well. We got Payne and I count Settle as a starting caliber player.

But they deserve to be dinged seriously for Guice because he dropped for character reasons, and it turned out to be completely true. 2nd round is high for a RB in the first place, and if he's got character concerns then it's even harder to make a profit on the selection.

The Christian pick is annoying too because the guy was clearly never strong enough. You can teach technique. It's a lot harder to move the needle on strength and speed, and impossible to move it on size.

I'll go B-. Settle is a genuine gem, he saves what could have been a D.

Guice also hyperextended his knee at LSU and never had surgery which might also be why he dropped. I think other teams were scared away by that knee, that he later tore the ACL with us in his ever first preseason game against New England.
Bruce Allen loved injured players (RB Bryce Love & OG Arie Kouandijo) and he thought he was getting a deal.
I am glad BA is gone.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think we're not just underrating Tim Settle, but seriously underrating Tim Settle. He's a starting caliber player, just buried on the depth chart behind two first rounders from Alabama, and a when-healthy 2nd only to Aaron Donald interior pass rusher.



You could make an argument that the best thing for the team is to trade Allen or Payne now and let Settle play. I don't think you lose much.



Back to the topic - because Settle is so good the draft can't be viewed as anything less than a B-. They say if you get two starters out of a draft, you've done well. We got Payne and I count Settle as a starting caliber player.



But they deserve to be dinged seriously for Guice because he dropped for character reasons, and it turned out to be completely true. 2nd round is high for a RB in the first place, and if he's got character concerns then it's even harder to make a profit on the selection.



The Christian pick is annoying too because the guy was clearly never strong enough. You can teach technique. It's a lot harder to move the needle on strength and speed, and impossible to move it on size.



I'll go B-. Settle is a genuine gem, he saves what could have been a D.

Second only to Aaron Donald? That might be stretching it. Top 10-15 for sure and if you factor in his age probably more appealing. I certainly agree that him being buried behind Allen and Payne overshadows his abilities. It is hard to find a top 15 anything that isn’t a starter. If Settle leaves at one point because of money I sure hope GM’s around the league hold him in as high regard as you do.
Unless I read this wrong and you are talking about Matty I? I would say the same thing about him i guess.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Second only to Aaron Donald? That might be stretching it. Top 10-15 for sure and if you factor in his age probably more appealing. I certainly agree that him being buried behind Allen and Payne overshadows his abilities. It is hard to find a top 15 anything that isn’t a starter. If Settle leaves at one point because of money I sure hope GM’s around the league hold him in as high regard as you do.
Unless I read this wrong and you are talking about Matty I? I would say the same thing about him i guess.

I would hate to trade Payne or Allen, but if we could trade one and re-up the other, and re-up Settle, that would be ok by me.

My preference would be to keep Allen and Payne. I'd re-up Allen now and FT tag Payne the 1st year after his contract expires. And re-up Settle. Then we have a couple more years with all 3. That's a lot of money for the next couple years, but worth it for the strength of our team. Then in a few years you will have flexibility to do as needed.

If we can keep 2 out of 3 for the foreseeable future, that is a win for the team.

Then you have to draft well again for a replacement.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Second only to Aaron Donald? That might be stretching it. Top 10-15 for sure and if you factor in his age probably more appealing. I certainly agree that him being buried behind Allen and Payne overshadows his abilities. It is hard to find a top 15 anything that isn’t a starter. If Settle leaves at one point because of money I sure hope GM’s around the league hold him in as high regard as you do.
Unless I read this wrong and you are talking about Matty I? I would say the same thing about him i guess.

Schneed was referring to either Payne or Allen ;-)

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Schneed was referring to either Payne or Allen ;-)

Yes in reference to the two guys from Alabama obviously, but than says “and a guy who when healthy is second only to Aaron Donald” - that is either referring to Settle or Matty I. Hence the “and a guy who....”

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Yes in reference to the two guys from Alabama obviously, but than says “and a guy who when healthy is second only to Aaron Donald” - that is either referring to Settle or Matty I. Hence the “and a guy who....”

Oh yeah sorry that Matty I then, because he was listing the guys Settle was behind of !

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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Oh yeah sorry that Matty I then, because he was listing the guys Settle was behind of !

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Right. But it even could be read like Settle is a guy who is burried behind two guys from Bama AND when healthy is second only to Aaron Donald.
Anyway whether Matty I or Settle- neither is the second best interior pass rusher in the league. Matty I is really good. Not second though.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Right. But it even could be read like Settle is a guy who is burried behind two guys from Bama AND when healthy is second only to Aaron Donald.
Anyway whether Matty I or Settle- neither is the second best interior pass rusher in the league. Matty I is really good. Not second though.

Well yeah guess you're right. Think the overall point simply was Settle gets way more playing time on any other team.

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