Alex Smith Cut (update: retired)

MTK · 03-01-2021, 02:08 PM

11-4 as the starter here. Say what you will about his style of play, but he found a way to win more often than not. Has any QB in Snyder's tenure left here with a winning record?

skinsfaninok · 03-01-2021, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

11-4 as the starter here. Say what you will about his style of play, but he found a way to win more often than not. Has any QB in Snyder's tenure left here with a winning record?

You can't deny the dude is a winner

Scalper · 03-01-2021, 11:44 PM

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You can't deny the dude is a winner

Stellar human being, only Hitler wouldn't wish Smith well.
But a cold-blooded analysis of his QB play reveals a QB that is above average and nothing more. He beat the easy teams and consistently struggled to beat the better teams, everywhere he played, even on stacked teams.
This was a move Skins had to make cap-wise, obviously.
I can't imagine anyone signing Smith to start, be interesting to see if he can catch on with another team.
First necessary move to clean up our mess at QB has been made. You could say the second, not making dumb trades being the first, except we tried that and got outbid. Man would I love to see us draft 2 QBs and just let youth compete.

skinsfan69 · 03-02-2021, 09:45 AM

A QB's WL record is such a flawed stat and is made up by the media. Does the guard have a WL record too?? What about the wr? The HC should have a WL record. That's it.

To me Smith was never really a good QB. I don't care for his style of play at all. You'll never win a SB w/ him unless you have a truly great defense. Very hard to do in this era of football.

He's about as outstanding of a guy you can have in your locker room but the team made the right decision here. He needs to retire.

irish · 03-01-2021, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

11-4 as the starter here. Say what you will about his style of play, but he found a way to win more often than not. Has any QB in Snyder's tenure left here with a winning record?

Its hard not to see that 11-4 record and wonder how thing would have worked out had he not been injured.

skinsfan69 · 03-02-2021, 09:53 AM

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Its hard not to see that 11-4 record and wonder how thing would have worked out had he not been injured.

We already know. See KC. The minute they got rid of him and drafted a better player their offense explodes and they won a SB and got to another.

CRedskinsRule · 03-02-2021, 10:17 AM

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We already know. See KC. The minute they got rid of him and drafted a better player their offense explodes and they won a SB and got to another.

Well, the minute we "got rid of him" our offense tanked and we dwelled in the basement of suckatude. AS was a qb that you could develop the rest of the team around and still be a quality team. Fortunately, I think RR and company understood that, and once they could free themselves of DH, they used KA and AS to keep the qb spot from being a liability and taught the rest of the team how to play. Getting the qb spot right is such a huge undertaking for this offseason. Is it September yet?

skinsfan69 · 03-02-2021, 09:50 PM

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Well, the minute we "got rid of him" our offense tanked and we dwelled in the basement of suckatude. AS was a qb that you could develop the rest of the team around and still be a quality team. Fortunately, I think RR and company understood that, and once they could free themselves of DH, they used KA and AS to keep the qb spot from being a liability and taught the rest of the team how to play. Getting the qb spot right is such a huge undertaking for this offseason. Is it September yet?

our offense was never good with him. there was an obvious drop off from Cousins to Smith.

CRedskinsRule · 03-02-2021, 09:53 PM

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our offense was never good with him. there was an obvious drop off from Cousins to Smith.

offensive production drop off maybe, better record definitely.

skinsfan69 · 03-02-2021, 10:03 PM

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offensive production drop off maybe, better record definitely.

But again a QB W/L record is totally flawed. DeShawn Watson's W/L record this year was 4-12.

CRedskinsRule · 03-02-2021, 10:35 AM

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We already know. See KC. The minute they got rid of him and drafted a better player their offense explodes and they won a SB and got to another.

Actually, both teams drafted a better player and let him sit behind AS for a year. Neither team "got rid of him and drafted a better player". Had we drafted a better player in lieu of Haskins, we would be in terrific shape as AS' contract expired. But alas - Haskins...

skinsfan69 · 03-02-2021, 09:57 PM

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Actually, both teams drafted a better player and let him sit behind AS for a year. Neither team "got rid of him and drafted a better player". Had we drafted a better player in lieu of Haskins, we would be in terrific shape as AS' contract expired. But alas - Haskins...

I am only talking about KC. Facts are when Mahomes took over they won a SB and went to another. Would never have happened w/ Smith.

CRedskinsRule · 03-02-2021, 10:02 PM

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I am only talking about KC. Facts are when Mahomes took over they won a SB and went to another. Would never have happened w/ Smith.

But the team that Mahomes took over, and the time behind AS is credited toward his growth. They also made the playoffs with AS.

My point is, had Haskins been a good qb pick, maybe we would be in a different place, but now we are stuck in a qb quagmire. None of that is Alex Smith's fault. The games he played, our team had measurably better success.

skinsfan69 · 03-02-2021, 10:06 PM

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But the team that Mahomes took over, and the time behind AS is credited toward his growth. They also made the playoffs with AS.

My point is, had Haskins been a good qb pick, maybe we would be in a different place, but now we are stuck in a qb quagmire. None of that is Alex Smith's fault. The games he played, our team had measurably better success.

Mahomes was going to be a great player. With or w/out Smith.

Also I am not knocking him. Solid guy as it gets, I just never thought much of him as a QB and would have never traded for him.

Scalper · 03-03-2021, 09:47 PM

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I am only talking about KC. Facts are when Mahomes took over they won a SB and went to another. Would never have happened w/ Smith.

Exactly.
Again, none of this is a personal attack against Smith.
But that analysis is spot on.
Smith was way too conservative and just had no moxy when the chips were down. You were going to win 9-10 games with him some seasons, and go to the playoffs at times, but never the SB.

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