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Hug Anne Spyder
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The problem I have with you is you keep trying to use this as an opportunity to have a discuss about why both sides have problems. Just take the L. Dems have problems too, nobody is denying that. But instead of just decrying radical speech that led conservatives to this point, you just backtrack to collusion. And it's pointless continuing that discussion because you have never once acknowledged Mueller's words on the subject. Quote:
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This is exactly how people are manipulating from dishonest media and political figures. There was NO evidence of collusion by Trump, family, administration etc. Folks it’s easy to see why there are people who believe the election was stolen in a vote by mail scenario. Mooby, Adam Schiff lied to the American people for 3 years: google the transcripts All the Adam Schiff Transcripts Newly released documents show he knew all along that there was no proof of Russia-Trump collusion.
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Gamebreaker
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More chicken shit republicans.............
https://www.yahoo.com/news/six-repub...225945766.html Six Republican lawmakers among rioters as police release photos of wanted Gustaf Kilander At least six Republican state legislators took part in events surrounding the storming of the US Capitol. West Virginia Delegate Derrick Evans posted a video of himself entering the building but later deleted it, The New York Times reported. This comes as the FBI and DC Police released images of people wanted on federal charges for violently storming the US Capitol. They are trying to track down 36 people after 68 were already arrested after violent clashes with police as the Trump-supporting mob broke into the Capitol, forcing members of Congress to evacuate and seek shelter in undisclosed locations. Four rioters died and 56 officers were injured in the ensuing chaos. One officer remains in hospital after being beaten and tased by the mob. Charges include inciting a riot and weapons violations. Rioters scaled the Capitol building, defaced statues, committed countless acts of vandalism and fought with police.
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Gamebreaker
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trump Officially Kicked Off Twitter
https://www.yahoo.com/news/twitter-s...234321450.html Twitter permanently suspends Trump's account Yahoo News Twitter permanently suspends Trump's account David Knowles Twitter said it issued a “permanent suspension” of Donald Trump’s account on Friday evening in the latest escalation by social media companies against a president they accuse of spreading misinformation and inciting violence. In a post to the site, Twitter explained its decision to block Trump from sharing posts with his 88.7 million followers, citing the attack on the U.S. Capitol by a mob of pro-Trump supporters. “After close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them, we have permanently suspended the account due to the risk of further incitement of violence,” the company said. “In the context of horrific events this week, we made it clear on Wednesday that additional violations of the Twitter Rules would potentially result in this very course of action. Our public interest framework exists to enable the public to hear from elected officials and world leaders directly. It is built on a principle that the people have a right to hold power to account in the open.” “However, we made it clear going back years that these accounts are not above our rules entirely and cannot use Twitter to incite violence, among other things,” the statement continued. “We will continue to be transparent around our policies and their enforcement.” A day earlier, Facebook suspended Trump’s account on its platform for similar reasons. Initially, Twitter removed a handful of Trump’s tweets that came after the siege on the Capitol. For months it had flagged posts by the president that the site said contained misinformation
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Another example of how even after all the facts are found, it still doesn’t matter...this is how people are manipulated into believing conspiracy theories such Trump colluded with Russia or an election was stolen from Trump.
It’s easy to see how we got here
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It's easy to see how YOU got there. You keep harping on collusion and ignore the facts that they found russia had meddled with the 2016 election .People went to jail, they were found guilty but like any other trump loyalist you ignore real facts and make up your own.
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Where are you getting this nonsense from? I can tell you definitely didn't read the 400+ pages and just going off Hannity or Trump's rendition of it. Mueller clearly stated they weren't looking for "collusion" and they were looking for a criminal conspiracy. They found plenty of evidence, but not enough to be able to convict a criminal conspiracy. I said from day one that they would probably never get enough evidence to convict on it since it's a hard charge to argue in court. You have to prove both parties were in on the conspiracy and both had to gain. You may not want to read the 400 pages, but this is enough breakdown to debunk your talking points. https://www.justsecurity.org/63838/g...-on-collusion/ If you want to make the point that the Trump campaign didn't criminally conspire with Russia then yes, that is correct (based on what evidence could prove). If you want to make the assertion that the Trump campaign didn't seek out help from them and welcome interference then you are 100% wrong. That is something the Mueller report does clearly show. Me personally, I think a good deal of evidence lies with Paul Manafort who wouldn't cooperate. Sorry, but giving campaign data to a Russian intelligence officer so they could micro-target their disinformation campaign on social media is probably criminal. There again, it's what you can prove in a court of law that ultimately matter.
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Oh my bad I didn’t know the audience I was speaking too, i forgot the Warpath was a legal message board and I shouldn’t be using the term collusion but mueller doc language conspiracy. Collusion is the term media and the general public used during the investigation. So no conspiracy was found...happy? So you can go all over the internet to pull up “opinions and interpretations”on the mueller findings that seek to validate your biased opinion...just like others that will seek out the same biased writings on “illegal voters rolls in Nevada, vote by mail laws in Pennsylvania and illegal counting of votes in Georgia after observers have gone” about this years “illegitimate elections.” Continue to confide with others across the internet and social media to validate your view...you all obviously know better than others who did the leg work. Your last paragraph is filled with the weak language based on assumption “probably, I think, etc” which forms a biased opinion. NC skins I’m not calling you an idiot or dumbass...nothing like that, I’m saying look at how we got here and is it really surprising?
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