What happens with Kyle Smith?

[MissouriSkin]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Actually his dad did a decent job in Buffalo and SD, he was better than Hurney.

Also heard he was a grade A ass as well. We will see how it all plays out. Ron knows what he’s doing IMO. I know on other boards people seem to forget the Panthers were a mess and he took them to 15-1 and a Super Bowl.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

Also heard he was a grade A ass as well. We will see how it all plays out. Ron knows what he’s doing IMO. I know on other boards people seem to forget the Panthers were a mess and he took them to 15-1 and a Super Bowl.

He has a young, smart and up and coming talent evaluator as good as Beathard and you just don’t risk losing him like you did Sean McVay.

[MissouriSkin]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

He has a young, smart and up and coming talent evaluator as good as Beathard and you just don’t risk losing him like you did Sean McVay.

Oh I don’t want him gone. I read on another board some people think they are bringing in the guy from Carolina for a couple years to show Kyle the ropes of the admin side of being a GM.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

Oh I don’t want him gone. I read on another board some people think they are bringing in the guy from Carolina for a couple years to show Kyle the ropes of the admin side of being a GM.

I’m fine with that as long as Kyle is good with it.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

He has a young, smart and up and coming talent evaluator as good as Beathard and you just don’t risk losing him like you did Sean McVay.

As good as Beathard?

If that were the case he'd have 31 other suitors
The kid has potential but hasn't even produced a winning team yet.

Beathard? Hall of fame dynasty builder.

Lets not get too carried away.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

As good as Beathard?

If that were the case he'd have 31 other suitors
The kid has potential but hasn't even produced a winning team yet.

Beathard? Hall of fame dynasty builder.

Lets not get too carried away.

Budding stars:
Payne
Settle
Young
Sweat
McLaurin
Gibson
Holcomb

Solid playmakers:
Moreland
Kurl
Smith-Williams
Hudson

Jury is out on them:
Martin
Love
Charles
AGG
Ismael
Harmon
Christian
Stroman
SDH

Busts:
Guice
Haskins (not his pick)
Apke

Other NFL rosters:
Brailford Vikings
Piersbacher Eagles
Quinn Jags

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Budding stars:
Payne
Settle
Young
Sweat
McLaurin
Gibson
Holcomb

Solid playmakers:
Moreland
Kurl
Smith-Williams
Hudson

Jury is out on them:
Martin
Love
Charles
AGG
Ismael
Harmon
Christian
Stroman
SDH

Busts:
Guice
Haskins (not his pick)
Apke

Other NFL rosters:
Brailford Vikings
Piersbacher Eagles
Quinn Jags

Bottom line is we have not won a playoff game or a division title w/ any of these guys. Jury is still out but let's not go overboard comparing Smith to one of the best GM's to ever do it.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Bottom line is we have not won a playoff game or a division title w/ any of these guys. Jury is still out but let's not go overboard comparing Smith to one of the best GM's to ever do it.

We are one game a way and now have a coach who can coach so I will go overboard. I guess you were happy with Vinnie and Bruce? You can’t discount the talent brought in 3 years in row which is better than what Vinnie/Bruce tenure did which was basically nothing.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

We are one game a way and now have a coach who can coach so I will go overboard. I guess you were happy with Vinnie and Bruce? You can’t discount the talent brought in 3 years in row which is better than what Vinnie/Bruce tenure did which was basically nothing.

I'm not saying Smith isn't capable. He is the best thing we have had going in the FO in a long time. But you are comparing him to a HOF GM who built SB winners, drafted HOF players and brought in others that are close to the HOF. There just isn't any argument between the two right now.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Bottom line is we have not won a playoff game or a division title w/ any of these guys. Jury is still out but let's not go overboard comparing Smith to one of the best GM's to ever do it.

Vinny and Bruce made the GM selections that Dan Snyder wanted them to pick - for 20 years!!. Dan Snyder was/is a terrible judge of NFL talent , among his many other faults as the owner. That’s one of the main reasons that the team was so dismal for 20 years, even with HOF-caliber HC such as Gibbs and Shannihan.

I don’t know why Rivera DOESN’T want Kyle Smith as the GM. Since Smith has done a very good job at picking starters out of the dregs of the NFL UDFA, NFL’s lowest- round draft picks, and the cheap, one-year, FA PICKUPs. A typical GM is considered a freaking genius if he can get a ST ace from the year’s lowest draft picks, UDFA, etc. - much less a couple starters!

Kyle Smith will be offered a GM spot at one NFL TEAM or more, if the WFT fails to act. I think Rivera is justifiably suspicious of any team executive not selected by HIMSELF. Remember, Snyder doesn’t care if the team wins or losses. He just wants to do the hiring and firing power .

Snyder is playing nice NOW, but as soon as he buys out the other minority owners and gets past the NFL investigation, does anyone doubt that he will go back to his old ways? Mistreating employees, and micromanaging the team using a shadow GM? I believe that it’s POSSIBLE that Rivera may wonder if Kyle Smith might be a TROJAN HORSE, ready to do Snyder’s dirty work?? I’m not saying Kyle Smith is Snyder’s lackey.

But Smith’s record is very good and I can’t think of ANY OTHER REASON why Rivera would be searching for a GM when Smith has built a team from the left over players that Bruce Allen and Snyder let him have. Rivera wants a GM that HE SELECTED to make sure that Snyder hasn’t tainted him beforehand.


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[mooby]

Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

Also heard he was a grade A ass as well. We will see how it all plays out. Ron knows what he’s doing IMO. I know on other boards people seem to forget the Panthers were a mess and he took them to 15-1 and a Super Bowl.

Heard the Grade A ass thing too. His dad also had the same eye for talent, the Chargers drafted well under AJ Smith but either ownership or Smith was too cheap to pay them when their contracts were up. They let a lot of talent walk in those days and it cost them their window with Rivers/Tomlinson/Gates.