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Old 10-19-2020, 12:09 PM   #1
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“Don’t think when you have established the rule of ‘because we can,’ that should the shoe be on the other foot, you will have any credibility to come to us and say: ‘yeah, I know you can do that, but you shouldn’t,’” Whitehouse said. “Your credibility to make that argument at any time in the future will die in this room and on that Senate floor if you continue.”

The Rhode Island Democrat succinctly stated what’s on everyone’s mind: Once Barrett is confirmed, all bets are off about how the Senate — and the Supreme Court — might look a few months from now if Democrats sweep in November.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...rvd?li=BBnb7Kz

Watching the live clip of his full comments ... he basically put the Republicans on notice. By not confirming Obama's nominee with 11 months left "because the American people should have a say" and then rushing Barrett's confirmation in days before election day ..

Civility and statesmanship, whatever was left of it, has died.

If the Dems take the Presidency and Senate ... how can republicans be taken seriously when they object to the Dems rushing through judicial appointments or whatever else they want to do. Senate minority has been rendered toothless over the past 4 years.
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Old 10-21-2020, 10:23 PM   #2
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“Don’t think when you have established the rule of ‘because we can,’ that should the shoe be on the other foot, you will have any credibility to come to us and say: ‘yeah, I know you can do that, but you shouldn’t,’” Whitehouse said. “Your credibility to make that argument at any time in the future will die in this room and on that Senate floor if you continue.”



The Rhode Island Democrat succinctly stated what’s on everyone’s mind: Once Barrett is confirmed, all bets are off about how the Senate — and the Supreme Court — might look a few months from now if Democrats sweep in November.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...rvd?li=BBnb7Kz



Watching the live clip of his full comments ... he basically put the Republicans on notice. By not confirming Obama's nominee with 11 months left "because the American people should have a say" and then rushing Barrett's confirmation in days before election day ..



Civility and statesmanship, whatever was left of it, has died.



If the Dems take the Presidency and Senate ... how can republicans be taken seriously when they object to the Dems rushing through judicial appointments or whatever else they want to do. Senate minority has been rendered toothless over the past 4 years.
I will say this, with all sincerity, if as you have claimed, the Democrats will be running the show for the indefinable future, then isn't it a good thing to have the 3rd branch of government positioned in such a way that there is an oppositional and effective check on unregulated executive and legislative branches.

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Old 10-22-2020, 10:44 AM   #3
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I will say this, with all sincerity, if as you have claimed, the Democrats will be running the show for the indefinable future, then isn't it a good thing to have the 3rd branch of government positioned in such a way that there is an oppositional and effective check on unregulated executive and legislative branches.

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1. I think theres a chance (just from what I read) that the Dems take the Senate this time bc the Rs have a bunch of seats on the ballot vs 2018 when the Dems had to defend a bunch of seats. I am just going off what Ive read, I have zero original thoughts on this.

2. Yes I agree it would be beneficial, as long as the SCOTUS sticks to judicial cannons (oaths to be fair, etc). In 20-30 years, I dont want some AOC president ramming through far left agendas. I expect the 6-3 SCOTUS to lean conservative. I can live with that. But I hope they dont become an operative arm of the GOP, with the GOP running to the SC every time a dem President signs an executive order. That would be a problem imo.

If Clarence Thomas gets his way and overturns Roe v Wade or Obergefell (same sex marriage) ... i would have major problems with the SCOTUS. I would expect protests like we have never seen and i honestly dont think the republicans even want that.

Its like the dog chasing the car. Now that you caught up to the car, what are you going to do now? did you think this through?

3. What McConnnell did to the process of placing justices on the SC will not be forgotten for a long time. For the past 6 years, he has done anything he could to put party over Country. Civility and statesmanship was dying in Congress but McConnell drove it off a cliff.

Lots of us Dems are really pissed off at McConnell and the hypocrisy of the republicans. The Chicos of the world can laugh and roll around enjoying our anger ... but I hope the moderates can agree that this is not good for the future of congress. The camels back is broken. Enjoy the stolen seat on the SCOTUS, but it will cost the republicans in the end.
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