Dunbar demanding trade or release

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by jamf

Let's not overreact.
Dude is just trying to get paid.

You can't discard every player that isn't a choirboy and expect to win.
The best coaches can get the best out of these diva players.

The only culture that matters is a winning culture.

Completely agree.

Its crazy that people want get rid of Dunbar ASAP for using a standard negotiating tactic when they want to do whatever it takes to get TW back when his behavior was 100x worse. If the team isn't going to do everything possible to get rid of Trent, I see no reason why they would do that for Dunbar. Both are the best options we have on our roster at their respective positions -and by a decent margin. And Dunbar has said he would show up and play out his deal if the skins don't trade him. I'm not concerned.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Completely agree.

Its crazy that people want get rid of Dunbar ASAP for using a standard negotiating tactic when they want to do whatever it takes to get TW back when his behavior was 100x worse. If the team isn't going to do everything possible to get rid of Trent, I see no reason why they would do that for Dunbar. Both are the best options we have on our roster at their respective positions -and by a decent margin. And Dunbar has said he would show up and play out his deal if the skins don't trade him. I'm not concerned.

False equivalence between Trent and Dunbar. Trent protects the blindside of Haskins, so ridding yourself of Trent means you need to find a competent replacement immediately or risk the development of your young QB. Trent also has given so much to this team over the years, playing through immense amounts of pain, so he has shown a track record of setting the culture you want. His beef with the team was for reasons that are all now purged from the organization. If he wants to return and play for this new staff, and you think you're getting back the guy who played through pain and was consistently excellent, that is far different from Dunbar who is expressing he wants out.

If Trent wants in and Dunbar wants out, then that says all you need to know about what each will add to the culture.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

False equivalence between Trent and Dunbar. Trent protects the blindside of Haskins, so ridding yourself of Trent means you need to find a competent replacement immediately or risk the development of your young QB. Trent also has given so much to this team over the years, playing through immense amounts of pain, so he has shown a track record of setting the culture you want. His beef with the team was for reasons that are all now purged from the organization. If he wants to return and play for this new staff, and you think you're getting back the guy who played through pain and was consistently excellent, that is far different from Dunbar who is expressing he wants out.

If Trent wants in and Dunbar wants out, then that says all you need to know about what each will add to the culture.

So much wrong in your comment. First, Trent didn't protect Haskins' blindside last year. Did Haskins development suffer because he wasn't there? Brown did just fine. And Trent typically only plays about 12 games a year the past few years due to suspension and injuries - will his development be stunted because Trent likely wont be there all 16 games? You act as though Trent Williams is the only player capable of protecting Haskins blindside. Trent Williams is good, but he's not irreplaceable, as Donald Penn demonstrated last year.

You also falsely assert that Trent's beef with the team is over now that Bruce and Hess are gone. This is a blatant lie. Trent himself made it very clear this all started because he wanted to get paid and the team wouldn't do it. And why would they now? And why would he come back without it (since it was so important to him)? You are incredibly and optimistically unrealistic in thinking this will all be worked out so easily AND that Trent will be healthy and as elite as he was in his prime.

Penn effectively filled in Trent's place last year. We already need one new starting CB... do we really think we can get TWO in free agency and the draft?

We (stupidly) did not trade Trent last year when he created a tremendous distraction for the entire team. But now, a year later, there is atleast a chance he might come back. This would seem to justify not caving in to a players contract demands. Dunbar has asked for a trade, but he's made clear he's not going to be the cancer Trent was. He's not going to hold out. He's not going to miss games. He's not going to trash the team and be a distraction. Unless he changes his tune and starts imitating Trents low-character ways, there is no reason to move him.