trump Inpeachment...............

[CRedskinsRule]

Trump's impeachment comes off like a vote of no confidence like that used in European parliaments. But we don't have a mechanism like that so the pols are trying to use impeachment as a stand in. It won't achieve their desired results -Trump's removal- but as G1 said it tarnishes his legacy for historical value.

As long as the country sits at a near 50 50 split, and we get candidates like HC and Trump, we will see more of this from both sides. And both sides media heads will scream why the current case is different from the last one.

I hope everyone will be able to tell their grandchildren what the US was like when we stood united in common purposes. It seems like a fairy tale even now.



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[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Trump's impeachment comes off like a vote of no confidence like that used in European parliaments. But we don't have a mechanism like that so the pols are trying to use impeachment as a stand in. It won't achieve their desired results -Trump's removal- but as G1 said it tarnishes his legacy for historical value.

As long as the country sits at a near 50 50 split, and we get candidates like HC and Trump, we will see more of this from both sides. And both sides media heads will scream why the current case is different from the last one.

I hope everyone will be able to tell their grandchildren what the US was like when we stood united in common purposes. It seems like a fairy tale even now.



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I can't even remember what that was like. My childhood was Clinton being impeached for lying about a blowjob. The closest we came was being united against terrorists after 9/11, but that has faded thanks to the useless war we're still fighting in Afghanistan.

Speaking of I find it incredible how the impeachment has basically covered up the report that just came out detailing the amazingly pervasive corruption in Afghanistan. Every American should be united in how angry they are that we've spent almost a trillion dollars in Afghanistan with nothing to show for it.

Also +1 on another fantastic post Schneed. I agree in that even if Trump loses the White House in 2020, this country is doomed to continue heading down this path.

Also Chico, I agree. Two of the most prudent actions we can take would be eliminating lobbyist influence on Congress and term limits. I think the one thing we could all agree on is term limits for Congress. The problem is Congress has no incentive to vote for term limits on themselves.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

I can't even remember what that was like. My childhood was Clinton being impeached for lying about a blowjob. The closest we came was being united against terrorists after 9/11, but that has faded thanks to the useless war we're still fighting in Afghanistan.

Speaking of I find it incredible how the impeachment has basically covered up the report that just came out detailing the amazingly pervasive corruption in Afghanistan. Every American should be united in how angry they are that we've spent almost a trillion dollars in Afghanistan with nothing to show for it.

Also +1 on another fantastic post Schneed. I agree in that even if Trump loses the White House in 2020, this country is doomed to continue heading down this path.

Also Chico, I agree. Two of the most prudent actions we can take would be eliminating lobbyist influence on Congress and term limits. I think the one thing we could all agree on is term limits for Congress. The problem is Congress has no incentive to vote for term limits on themselves.

The crime was perjury or lying under oath.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

The crime was perjury or lying under oath.

I simplified it, but if he hadn't been getting head in the WH he wouldn't have been impeached because there would be nothing to lie about.

I guess we hold lying to a different standard now. If Trump isn't lying about the Ukraine, why doesn't he release the verbatim transcript from the classified system it's being held in? Surely that would prove all 8 witnesses wrong.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

The crime was perjury or lying under oath.

What do you call telling witnesses not to testify or honor subpoenas chico ,curious?