How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?

[Warthog]

Another point is that the Eagles are a very good team that had not played their players at all in the PS. First half they were rusty and unfocused. But DeSean told the Eagles players not to worry: the Redskins have a losing culture; a timid, below average HC who can’t win a second half - even to save his job. I liked the comment on the Gruden 4 and 1 play . If MY job was on the line I’d be going for it, even on my own 30. The Eagles ran three QB sneaks on 1 yd situations and got them all. They knew the Redskins would fold, they knew Gruden would try to protect the lead instead of doing what worked in the first half, they knew the Redskins would play undisciplined football to shoot themselves in the foot. When has Gruden had a low penalty team? When was the last time Gruden won a second half?
I thought O’Connell called a great first half. Then Gruden played his Jay-bowl second half : run on first down (minimal gain), penalty on OL, run on second down and then have a third and unbelievable passing down. If the fans can see Gruden’s predictable play calling you can be sure the Eagles DC knows how to stop it. I don’t blame Guice, the playcalling was predictable and their was NO hole. Gruden hasn’t grown or changed. I used to think we needed to draft better, but even when we do, the result is the same. It’s going to be painful to see good talent subjected to below average to poor coaching at a the HC and DC level.



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[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Warthog

Another point is that the Eagles are a very good team that had not played their players at all in the PS. First half they were rusty and unfocused. But DeSean told the Eagles players not to worry: the Redskins have a losing culture; a timid, below average HC who can’t win a second half - even to save his job.

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Not to take away from your points, but DeSean Jackson can kiss my ass. He bitches about Washington letting him go, when he knows damn well he chased the money to Tampa Bay. He sucked in TB and never lived up to his contract. He also forgets how he was considered to be a locker room cancer when Chip Kelly got rid of him and how he rehabbed his image and career with us, which led to his deal with Tampa Bay. So fuck him and we'll see what the Iggles think about him when he misses his average 4-5 games, as he does each year.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Not to take away from your points, but DeSean Jackson can kiss my ass. He bitches about Washington letting him go, when he knows damn well he chased the money to Tampa Bay. He sucked in TB and never lived up to his contract. He also forgets how he was considered to be a locker room cancer when Chip Kelly got rid of him and how he rehabbed his image and career with us, which led to his deal with Tampa Bay. So fuck him and we'll see what the Iggles think about him when he misses his average 4-5 games, as he does each year.

The Redskins let BOTH Garçon AND DeSean go after the 2017 season. Two 1000 yard WR out the door. It was a Bruce Allen decision not try to keep either one!! Last year we also let Crowder go. Another 1000 yd WR out the door.

Who did we keep? Doctson- who never even had a single 100 yd game ever. P. Richardson was given a big contract- yet has NEVER had a single 1000 yd season during his six years in the NFL. Last year he had just 262 yds for us. Jordan Reed, who is awesome when he plays, but never finishes a season. Last year, we were 28th in the NFL in passing. That’s what happens when you let your best WR players go.

DeSean came to Washington because Chip Kelly is an idiot. DJax was a gift from the NFL gods. He played very well, was good in the locker room, punished the Eagles every game he played them, stayed healthy, and stretched the opposite defense with his speed. Yet we let him walk.

Yesterday, DeSean he beat us two ways: FIRST - he calmed the Eagles in the locker room and told the team that the Redskins would fold in the second half - because he knew Gruden. The Eagles walked onto the field confident from Jackson’s prediction. Second: he beat us on the field.

Meanwhile, the guy we decided to hire INSTEAD of paying DJax, Paul Richardson dropped critical passes in the second half. Our supposed #1 WR and DeSean’s replacement had just 36 yds yesterday.

Don’t blame DeSean because he roasted us yesterday. He could still be playing here, if we’d paid him. And he would have been toasting the Eagles alongside McLaurin.


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[calia]

Originally Posted by Warthog

The Redskins let BOTH Garçon AND DeSean go after the 2017 season. Two 1000 yard WR out the door. It was a Bruce Allen decision not try to keep either one!! Last year we also let Crowder go. Another 1000 yd WR out the door.

Who did we keep? Doctson- who never even had a single 100 yd game ever. P. Richardson was given a big contract- yet has NEVER had a 1000 yd season in six years of playing. Last year he had just 262 yds for us. Jordan Reed, who is awesome when he plays, but never finishes a season. Last year, we were 28th in the NFL in passing. That’s what happens when you let your best WR players go.

DeSean came to Washington because Chip Kelly is an idiot. DJax was a gift from the NFL gods. He played very well, was good in the locker room, punished the Eagles every game he played them, stayed healthy, and stretched the opposite defense with his speed. Yet we let him walk.

Yesterday, DeSean he beat us two ways: FIRST - he calmed the Eagles in the locker room and told the team that the Redskins would fold in the second half - because he knew Gruden. The Eagles walked onto the field confident from Jackson’s prediction. Second: he beat us on the field.

Meanwhile, the guy we decided to hire INSTEAD of paying DJax, Paul Richardson dropped critical passes in the second half. Our supposed #1 WR and DeSean’s replacement had just 36 yds yesterday.

Don’t blame DeSean because he roasted us yesterday. He could still be playing here, if we’d paid him. And he would have been toasting the Eagles alongside McLaurin.


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That about suns it up. Yep.


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[5superbowls3wins]

Originally Posted by Warthog

The Redskins let BOTH Garçon AND DeSean go after the 2017 season. Two 1000 yard WR out the door. It was a Bruce Allen decision not try to keep either one!! Last year we also let Crowder go. Another 1000 yd WR out the door.

Who did we keep? Doctson- who never even had a single 100 yd game ever. P. Richardson was given a big contract- yet has NEVER had a single 1000 yd season during his six years in the NFL. Last year he had just 262 yds for us. Jordan Reed, who is awesome when he plays, but never finishes a season. Last year, we were 28th in the NFL in passing. That’s what happens when you let your best WR players go.

DeSean came to Washington because Chip Kelly is an idiot. DJax was a gift from the NFL gods. He played very well, was good in the locker room, punished the Eagles every game he played them, stayed healthy, and stretched the opposite defense with his speed. Yet we let him walk.

Yesterday, DeSean he beat us two ways: FIRST - he calmed the Eagles in the locker room and told the team that the Redskins would fold in the second half - because he knew Gruden. The Eagles walked onto the field confident from Jackson’s prediction. Second: he beat us on the field.

Meanwhile, the guy we decided to hire INSTEAD of paying DJax, Paul Richardson dropped critical passes in the second half. Our supposed #1 WR and DeSean’s replacement had just 36 yds yesterday.

Don’t blame DeSean because he roasted us yesterday. He could still be playing here, if we’d paid him. And he would have been toasting the Eagles alongside McLaurin.


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Then the decision to sit the greatest RB of this decade, the strongest offensive weapon they had last year, Hours before kick off, against a division rival, on the road in hostile territory, with a quarterback taking his first real game snaps in this system and would need a run game badly..........for an unproven running back, taking his first real game snaps, coming back from injury, and a “special teams” player signed earlier in the week named Smallwood.....

Tell me, how many yards did Guice have? What did Smallwood do to help? How many breaks did our defense get in the second half?

Another HORRIBLE decision by our head coach that had DISASTROUS consequences. You pay a head coach to make good decisions in preparing for games, getting the players preparing, setting the team up for success and making good decisions on the fly during games. Gruden has failed miserably in each of those areas. Why are they still paying him, and why does he still have a job?????


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[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

Then the decision to sit the greatest RB of this decade,

Another HORRIBLE decision by our head coach that had DISASTROUS consequences. You pay a head coach to make good decisions in preparing for games, getting the players preparing, setting the team up for success and making good decisions on the fly during games. Gruden has failed miserably in each of those areas. Why are they still paying him, and why does he still have a job?????


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Ill bite since I am somewhat of a Gruden fan, I think he would be an above average OC but not cut out for a HC. I think he deserves better than the Skins. He was never allowed to pick his assistants and has had very little to no input .. but it was nice for Doug Williams to give him a cursory call, after the fact, to let him know they were trading and backing up the Brinks truck for Alex Smith.

Guice - I think Jay likes Guice over AP. The future is Guice (maybe). But I did expect a 50/50 split in week 1 and I guess I dont value ST as much as Jay but typically you do want your 3rd back to play ST. We have Guice, CT and AP ... I would have dressed AP but a dressed AP doesnt win us or change the result of the Eagles game ino.

"You pay a head coach to make good decisions in preparing for games, getting the players preparing, setting the team up for success and making good decisions on the fly during games." -- Does he get any credit for having the team UP 17-0 early in the 2nd quarter? 20-7 at the half? Getting Case Keenum in a system to rack up 380 yds passing?

I only judge Jay for what the offense does bc he is basically just an OC with no roster or assistants input. I dont even think he has ultimate input on the run game as Callahan seems to be the main voice there.

Jay is a good OC, a competent offensive mind on a team and FO with very few competent people on the payroll.

[calia]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Ill bite since I am somewhat of a Gruden fan, I think he would be an above average OC but not cut out for a HC. I think he deserves better than the Skins. He was never allowed to pick his assistants and has had very little to no input .. but it was nice for Doug Williams to give him a cursory call, after the fact, to let him know they were trading and backing up the Brinks truck for Alex Smith.

Guice - I think Jay likes Guice over AP. The future is Guice (maybe). But I did expect a 50/50 split in week 1 and I guess I dont value ST as much as Jay but typically you do want your 3rd back to play ST. We have Guice, CT and AP ... I would have dressed AP but a dressed AP doesnt win us or change the result of the Eagles game ino.

"You pay a head coach to make good decisions in preparing for games, getting the players preparing, setting the team up for success and making good decisions on the fly during games." -- Does he get any credit for having the team UP 17-0 early in the 2nd quarter? 20-7 at the half? Getting Case Keenum in a system to rack up 380 yds passing?

I only judge Jay for what the offense does bc he is basically just an OC with no roster or assistants input. I dont even think he has ultimate input on the run game as Callahan seems to be the main voice there.

Jay is a good OC, a competent offensive mind on a team and FO with very few competent people on the payroll.

So in other words, he is Norv Turner. Great.

[5superbowls3wins]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

Then the decision to sit the greatest RB of this decade, the strongest offensive weapon they had last year, Hours before kick off, against a division rival, on the road in hostile territory, with a quarterback taking his first real game snaps in this system and would need a run game badly..........for an unproven running back, taking his first real game snaps, coming back from injury, and a “special teams” player signed earlier in the week named Smallwood.....

Tell me, how many yards did Guice have? What did Smallwood do to help? How many breaks did our defense get in the second half?

Another HORRIBLE decision by our head coach that had DISASTROUS consequences. You pay a head coach to make good decisions in preparing for games, getting the players preparing, setting the team up for success and making good decisions on the fly during games. Gruden has failed miserably in each of those areas. Why are they still paying him, and why does he still have a job?????


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Oh, and to add to the pile, there was the decision to award P Richardson with a nice contract. What has that piece of garbage done for Washington? Meanwhile, we have Mr Irrelevant out performing him, and watching DeSean Jackson (the guy Richardson replaced) torch the league.

This front office and coaching staff make one bad decision after the other...


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[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Warthog

The Redskins let BOTH Garçon AND DeSean go after the 2017 season. Two 1000 yard WR out the door. It was a Bruce Allen decision not try to keep either one!! Last year we also let Crowder go. Another 1000 yd WR out the door.

Who did we keep? Doctson- who never even had a single 100 yd game ever. P. Richardson was given a big contract- yet has NEVER had a single 1000 yd season during his six years in the NFL. Last year he had just 262 yds for us. Jordan Reed, who is awesome when he plays, but never finishes a season. Last year, we were 28th in the NFL in passing. That’s what happens when you let your best WR players go.

DeSean came to Washington because Chip Kelly is an idiot. DJax was a gift from the NFL gods. He played very well, was good in the locker room, punished the Eagles every game he played them, stayed healthy, and stretched the opposite defense with his speed. Yet we let him walk.

Yesterday, DeSean he beat us two ways: FIRST - he calmed the Eagles in the locker room and told the team that the Redskins would fold in the second half - because he knew Gruden. The Eagles walked onto the field confident from Jackson’s prediction. Second: he beat us on the field.

Meanwhile, the guy we decided to hire INSTEAD of paying DJax, Paul Richardson dropped critical passes in the second half. Our supposed #1 WR and DeSean’s replacement had just 36 yds yesterday.

Don’t blame DeSean because he roasted us yesterday. He could still be playing here, if we’d paid him. And he would have been toasting the Eagles alongside McLaurin.


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I get what you're saying but Jamison Crowder never had 1,000 yards receiving in a season.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I get what you're saying but Jamison Crowder never had 1,000 yards receiving in a season.

You’re right. My bad. Crowder has been replaced by Quinn / Harmon / Stephen Sims / Robert Davis. Probably Quinn at #3. McLaurin will be our #1 WR for the next decade


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