Should Gruden be fired ?

[Ruhskins]

I think this is similar to the Cousins situation, you can make arguments and excuses for the lack of wins, but I just think the team needs to move on from him.

Regardless of what happens, I think Manusky needs to get canned right away. His unit has NO EXCUSE for their declining performance.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think this is similar to the Cousins situation, you can make arguments and excuses for the lack of wins, but I just think the team needs to move on from him.

Regardless of what happens, I think Manusky needs to get canned right away. His unit has NO EXCUSE for their declining performance.

I came here to write pretty much exactly this. Manusky should be canned, he has most of his personnel and it's not bad personnel.

But Gruden chose Manusky. I had concerns at the time that he wasn't considering his options well enough, sticking with an in-house candidate due to familiarity and continuity. It tells me Jay is too conservative, unimaginative and too unwilling to expand his horizons.

You can't say Jay didn't pick the players, he's had a lot of say in drafts. You can't say Jay doesn't call the plays and own the game plan. And you can't say Jay didn't pick the coaches. He picked them all.

Someone else should get a shot to show what they can do with this roster. A good coach will get them into the playoffs, there's enough talent.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I came here to write pretty much exactly this. Manusky should be canned, he has most of his personnel and it's not bad personnel.

But Gruden chose Manusky. I had concerns at the time that he wasn't considering his options well enough, sticking with an in-house candidate due to familiarity and continuity. It tells me Jay is too conservative, unimaginative and too unwilling to expand his horizons.

You can't say Jay didn't pick the players, he's had a lot of say in drafts. You can't say Jay doesn't call the plays and own the game plan. And you can't say Jay didn't pick the coaches. He picked them all.

Someone else should get a shot to show what they can do with this roster. A good coach will get them into the playoffs, there's enough talent.

I would also bet that Jay had a lot to do with keeping Luvao around.