Around the NFL Week 11

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I swear the Cousins haters crack me up.

I'm not a hater, I just think they severely overpaid for his services. He's a good, just not special as McCloughan put it.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I'm not a hater, I just think they severely overpaid for his services. He's a good, just not special as McCloughan put it.

He is a borderline top ten QB, nothing more nothing less. The money he got paid probably won't look so crazy after a couple more of the top ten QB get new contracts.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

He is a borderline top ten QB, nothing more nothing less. The money he got paid probably won't look so crazy after a couple more of the top ten QB get new contracts.

Being top 10 doesn't mean that much to me. Especially when there is a huge gap between that tier 1 and tier 2 in terms of talent and being game changers.

Tier 1
Aaron Rodgers
Drew Brees
Tom Brady
Phillip Rivers
Matt Ryan


These are the only QBs I would pay that upper echelon money for. I don't give a fuck what the market calls for. These QBs can carry a team if they have to or called upon. Most other QBs cannot and have not. This tier 1 list are absolutely game changers and that's why you pay them 28-30+mil a year. I'd rather pay 23 mil/yr for a game changer like Aaron Donald/Kahlil Mack than 23mil for a game manager like Alex Smith. You are better off putting resources into the OL/DL/etc and rolling with a guy like McCoy than overpaying for a guy who's average (or slightly above) at his position.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Being top 10 doesn't mean that much to me. Especially when there is a huge gap between that tier 1 and tier 2 in terms of talent and being game changers.

Tier 1
Aaron Rodgers
Drew Brees
Tom Brady
Phillip Rivers
Matt Ryan


These are the only QBs I would pay that upper echelon money for. I don't give a fuck what the market calls for. These QBs can carry a team if they have to or called upon. Most other QBs cannot and have not. This tier 1 list are absolutely game changers and that's why you pay them 28-30+mil a year. I'd rather pay 23 mil/yr for a game changer like Aaron Donald/Kahlil Mack than 23mil for a game manager like Alex Smith. You are better off putting resources into the OL/DL/etc and rolling with a guy like McCoy than overpaying for a guy who's average (or slightly above) at his position.

I would also put Ben Roethlisberger on my tier 1 list. 6 pro Bowls, 2 time Super Bowl winner, 13-8 in playoffs. Like Rodger's pocket evasiveness Big Ben extends a lot of plays because he is so hard to bring down.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

I would also put Ben Roethlisberger on my tier 1 list. 6 pro Bowls, 2 time Super Bowl winner, 13-8 in playoffs. Like Rodger's pocket evasiveness Big Ben extends a lot of plays because he is so hard to bring down.

Rivers chokes, always has. I would def put Ben in the top 5.

Brees
AROD
BEN
BRADY
MAHOMES

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Rivers chokes, always has. I would def put Ben in the top 5.

Brees
AROD
BEN
BRADY
MAHOMES

No matter how good a QB looks he has to play well in year two as a starter before I will put him up with the A grade guys. There have been too many one year wonders that defenses yanked the rug out from under after enough film was out on them. Remember when RG3 and Kap were mentioned as part of the next generation of top QBs? Also the offensive weapons on KC are full on bad ass.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

No matter how good a QB looks he has to play well in year two as a starter before I will put him up with the A grade guys. There have been too many one year wonders that defenses yanked the rug out from under after enough film was out on them. Remember when RG3 and Kap were mentioned as part of the next generation of top QBs? Also the offensive weapons on KC are full on bad ass.

This is true but I think this kid is the real deal. He does have a great cast tho.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I'm not a hater, I just think they severely overpaid for his services. He's a good, just not special as McCloughan put it.

I'm with u on this, I am a big KC fan. I was hoping he would stay but after i saw the $ he got I was glad we didn't keep him. That would have killed our chances at signing key guys like BS , DJ Swearinger etc. Kirk has always been great against poor teams, then he plays a good defense an he struggles. Last night they showed his stats.

Leads league in fumbles and batted passes at the LOS.

Had 2 horrendous INT's , one of them he threw into triple coverage and the other he just floated in the air because pressure was coming. It's time to admit that Kirk is what we all knew he was. Good but not a guy that can carry an offense.

BTW his team which is far more talented than us has a worse record.