Postgame Falcons

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Cooley's grades from his Offensive Film Breakdown of the week.

I want to highlight Nsekhe's, Geron Christian's and Tony Bergstrom's grades.
Granted they didn't play a great front 4, but I did think they played better than I/we expected: when we had 3 starting Olinemen out of the game I thought Alex Smith was going to get blasted on every pass play, but he still had quite a lot of time to throw the ball. Quite a lot of missed assignments in the run game though.

Point is... despite the injuries I'm trying not to throw the towel on a 5-3 season... Cooley even said he doesn't think it's going to be that dynamic of a difference from what this offense has been this year.

Alex Smith B

Adrian Peterson B

Geron Christian C+ (Cooley says if you take away 2 or 3 really bad plays, he played pretty well. I did think he looked way more confident than during pre season)

Ty Nsekhe A-

Tony Bergstrom C- (as a fill in guy he did OK)

Chase Roullier B+

Brandon Scherff C

Morgan Moses C- (obviously playing hurt)

Mo Harris B+

Josh Doctson C+

Paul Richardson C

Jordan Reed B

Vernon Davis B

I don't get this. My question to Cooley would be the offense scored 14 points against a bad defense, yet he's giving everyone B's and C's. I don't get it.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't get this. My question to Cooley would be the offense scored 14 points against a bad defense, yet he's giving everyone B's and C's. I don't get it.

Good point.

The way I see it:

-The pick was a good throw, just a great play by the 2 DBs. Takes away potential points but doesn't significantly downgrade anybody.

-The 2 drops by Doctson were killers, I wanted his head on a spike after this... But Cooley upgraded him for his later catches and TD.

-The run game didn't get going because of a lot of missed assignments by an OL line up that had never practiced like that together, so maybe he didn't downgrade individual grades for it.

-I think he's going to be wayyy more harsh on the Defense. (EDIT: Just started listening to the Defensive Film Breakdown, he opened by saying he's not even sure he's going to say the grades... a lot of Ds, best one is a B to Matt Ioannidis)

-He doesn't give Fs, so he only gives a D when the guy played atrociously bad.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

-The 2 drops by Doctson were killers, I wanted his head on a spike after this... But Cooley upgraded him for his later catches and TD.

A coach evaluating a player is going to consider how a player's performance impacted the game. Doctson's drops helped the Redskins to a 0-14 hole they are not equipped to dig their way out of. With his small sample he only caught the ball 3 out of his 6 targets and ended up with 30 measly yards, how that is a C+ is beyond crazy. So by Cooley's assessment Doctson played like an above average wide receiver Sunday. That makes no sense.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

A coach evaluating a player is going to consider how a player's performance impacted the game. Doctson's drops helped the Redskins to a 0-14 hole they are not equipped to dig their way out of. With his small sample he only caught the ball 3 out of his 6 targets and ended up with 30 measly yards, how that is a C+ is beyond crazy. So by Cooley's assessment Doctson played like an above average wide receiver Sunday. That makes no sense.

Cooley plays the nice guy, Doc sucked Sunday and he has all yr. He never gets separation and he drops passes.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

A coach evaluating a player is going to consider how a player's performance impacted the game. Doctson's drops helped the Redskins to a 0-14 hole they are not equipped to dig their way out of. With his small sample he only caught the ball 3 out of his 6 targets and ended up with 30 measly yards, how that is a C+ is beyond crazy. So by Cooley's assessment Doctson played like an above average wide receiver Sunday. That makes no sense.

Does scoring a TD on a tough catch count? I guess not.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Does scoring a TD on a tough catch count? I guess not.

Not when you average one every three years. No.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Not when you average one every three years. No.

He had 6 last year, remember that?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

He had 6 last year, remember that?

You said tough catches.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

A coach evaluating a player is going to consider how a player's performance impacted the game. Doctson's drops helped the Redskins to a 0-14 hole they are not equipped to dig their way out of. With his small sample he only caught the ball 3 out of his 6 targets and ended up with 30 measly yards, how that is a C+ is beyond crazy. So by Cooley's assessment Doctson played like an above average wide receiver Sunday. That makes no sense.

This is were his grades are misleading. In his system, C+ is not above average, I'd say it's slightly below: he has a % grading scale (that he explained in his first podcast episode) where 86% and above is an A, 85% to 76% is B, 75% to 66% is C, 65% to 51% is D, 50% and below is an F.

You expect your average WR to do his job/have a positive impact on more than 70% of the plays, don't you?

And again, I really don't think grades are the best part of his Film Breakdowns, the explanations are. Because he did say Doctson is not getting any separation and he went into details on why his drops were ugly and 100% on him.
So yeah, maybe a C is being too nice, but if you listen to the film breakdown, he's not trying to make you believe Doctson had a solid game.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

This is were his grades are misleading. In his system, C+ is not above average, I'd say it's slightly below: he has a % grading scale (that he explained in his first podcast episode) where 86% and above is an A, 85% to 76% is B, 75% to 66% is C, 65% to 51% is D, 50% and below is an F.

You expect your average WR to do his job/have a positive impact on more than 70% of the plays, don't you?

And again, I really don't think grades are the best part of his Film Breakdowns, the explanations are. Because he did say Doctson is not getting any separation and he went into details on why his drops were ugly and 100% on him.
So yeah, maybe a C is being too nice, but if you listen to the film breakdown, he's not trying to make you believe Doctson had a solid game.

Unfortunately I am not privy to such information. Cell signals are too weak here for wireless internet, so I have data capped satellite internet. I would use my data up quick if I watched podcasts and the like. Even though I am 80 miles southwest of DC FM stations that carry ESPN radio and other sportstalk are too weak to reach here. My Redskin news comes from catching B-Mitch, Chris and Doc on AM radio like it was the 1970's.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Unfortunately I am not privy to such information. Cell signals are too weak here for wireless internet, so I have data capped satellite internet. I would use my data up quick if I watched podcasts and the like. Even though I am 80 miles southwest of DC FM stations that carry ESPN radio and other sportstalk are too weak to reach here. My Redskin news comes from catching B-Mitch, Chris and Doc on AM radio like it was the 1970's.

Man on some aspects the US are really hard to wrap your mind around... Even the smallest village lost in the middle of nowhere in France has access to unlimited Wifi for 40€ per month max... Granted the territory is much much wider but it's always surprising to me.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Unfortunately I am not privy to such information. Cell signals are too weak here for wireless internet, so I have data capped satellite internet. I would use my data up quick if I watched podcasts and the like. Even though I am 80 miles southwest of DC FM stations that carry ESPN radio and other sportstalk are too weak to reach here. My Redskin news comes from catching B-Mitch, Chris and Doc on AM radio like it was the 1970's.

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Man on some aspects the US are really hard to wrap your mind around... Even the smallest village lost in the middle of nowhere in France has access to unlimited Wifi for 40€ per month max... Granted the territory is much much wider but it's always surprising to me.

It just really depends where you are at in the states. I am not that far out in the woods. I am only 10 miles away from Interstate 95 which runs the whole east coast of the USA and into Canada. The general area I live in is very backward, the bank I use and their website reminds me of the infant years of the internet, a lot of businesses here don't have websites, and advertise in the phone book like it was 30 years ago. I have customers in other states further off the beaten path than I am yet they have WIFI, broadband internet, piped in natural gas and water. I have none of those things.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't get this. My question to Cooley would be the offense scored 14 points against a bad defense, yet he's giving everyone B's and C's. I don't get it.

Cooleys word is gold around here. How dare you! Personally I think he was a much better player than analyst.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Cooleys word is gold around here. How dare you! Personally I think he was a much better player than analyst.

He can be wrong but what I like is that he always gives details and examples of why he gave the grade. I honestly am way more interested in the explanations than the grades. I just posted them to highlight that we might not be as doomed as we think as far as the OL is concerned.

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[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't get this. My question to Cooley would be the offense scored 14 points against a bad defense, yet he's giving everyone B's and C's. I don't get it.

He's grading individual performance. One can play well independently of the overall team performance.