Media Bias

Giantone · 08-05-2018, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

This was a polictical ploy by Democrats and a great example of fake news. The ploy was the dems didn’t try to get support for this and wanted a down vote by The gop so they could tweet about it and so media would eat it up. There is a ton of context missing...a couple things...first our election process across the board is so flush with cash local boards are returning it. This doesn’t affect anything with the security of our mid terms. Most news orgs actually didn’t give this a lot Press because it was such a political ploy by dems.

Of course g1 runs with it.

LOL, and of course chico ignores it.

Giantone · 08-05-2018, 12:55 PM

Chico and Cred...........

in a nutshell.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/a...120653906.html

‘They really don’t feel like they’re winning’

QAnon began with “Q,” a persona claiming to be someone within the government, promising to expose how dark forces are working against Trump and his administration. The “Anon” part comes from Q’s readers, who decipher Q’s “clues” on message boards and build outlandish interpretations. Posters named “Q” have been instigating unfounded theories on social networks including 4Chan, 8Chan, and Reddit.

“[Conspiracy theories] like this fill an important psychological role for many people,” Thomas J. Wood, an assistant professor of Political Science at Ohio State University who has studied how conspiracy theories gain public support, told Yahoo Finance. “It tends to sway those who have chronic anxiety and feel disaffected by politics by providing a symbolic and intuitive story for them.”

Previous research, summarized by the New York Times, has found that people who believe in conspiracy theories “are more likely to be cynical about the world in general and politics in particular. Conspiracy theories also seem to be more compelling to those with low self-worth, especially with regard to their sense of agency in the world at large. Conspiracy theories appear to be a way of reacting to uncertainty and powerlessness.”

Chico23231 · 08-16-2018, 12:02 PM

Specifically, we journalists should all ask, "What are we doing that allows Trump to convince so many of 'the people' that we are their 'enemy?'"

For starters, we journalists should stop attacking the people we are supposed to be informing.

“If you put everyone's mouths together in this video, you'd get a full set of teeth,” one Politico reporter wrote of a Trump rally in Florida. The reporter apologized for the comment, but it already served to confirm the suspicion among working-class Republicans that the prestige press hates them.

There was Katy Tur of MSNBC, who went around a Trump event asking “gotcha” questions of ordinary Americans excited to get $1,000 bonus and a lower tax rate. The clear message was that these people were too dumb to realize the tax cut and any concomitant bonuses were peanuts.

We also note CNN’s crusades to punish, threaten, and deny platforms to those whose speech goes beyond the CNN-drawn boundaries of permissible dissent. In recent days, some CNN reporters have decided their job is to lobby social media platforms to kick off conspiracy theorist Alex Jones. They’ve succeeded with the largest platforms, and bragged about it.

Such lobbying was odd behavior for a media outlet, and it reminded of us the time CNN sicced its investigative resources on the creator an idiotic GIF of Trump "body slamming CNN." When CNN reporters found the anonymous troll who posted the image, they threatened in print that they would “publish his identity should” he repeat such “ugly behavior.”
Alex Jones and anonymous Twitter trolls are hardly sympathetic figures, but that doesn’t turn CNN’s campaigns to "dox" or de-platform them into journalism. We worry about the slippery slope here. Much of the media believe there’s no valid reason to oppose gay marriage. Buzzfeed recently ran an attack on the Christian views of TV hosts, having explained that on gay marriage “there are no two sides.”

We all remember the reporters who scoured Indiana until they found a pizzamaker who was uninterested in catering a gay wedding, and was then made a national whipping boy of the pizza shop.

So the average religious conservative who has seen this media behavior is justified if she's wondering when a CNN, BuzzFeed, or MSNBC reporter might show up to ruin her life for holding the “wrong” opinions, whether on guns, immigration, marriage, or even tax cuts.

Then there are the times the mainstream media outright lies about conservative or working-class people. Katie Couric produced a documentary that dishonestly edited out the arguments of gun-rights supporters to make it look like she had stumped them and left them speechless. Vox.com ran a poll about voters’ immigration views and hid the fact that “taking away jobs” was voters’ No. 1 concern. Why? Probably because Vox wanted to push the idea that racism rather than “economic anxiety” drove immigration worries.

Finally, when you see the New York Times hire a writer who regularly and publicly professes her hatred of white men, it seems the Times thinks such hatred is fine.

So the media — from the perspective of a working-class white person, a Trump supporter, or a conservative — really can look like an adversary, and a dangerous one, with the power to destroy your life, silence you, or cost you your job. This isn’t the media holding the powerful to account. It’s the media lazily abusing those with unpopular views.

Trump should stop calling the media the enemy of the people. And the media should stop doing the things that give Trump's attacks credence.

Some great examples here...

Giantone · 08-16-2018, 01:10 PM

chico is worried about Manafort .

Chico23231 · 08-16-2018, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

chico is worried about Manafort .

eff manafort...but if you ever want to educate yourself should read up on him and Roger Stone during the eighties...fascinating stuff...and extremely shady.

truly evil geniuses...way too smart for DC.

This is the chickens coming home to roost for Manafort.

But yes misleading, biased media is a national issue...

Giantone · 08-16-2018, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

But yes misleading, biased media is a national issue...

No, it's only an issue for people not smart enough to tell the difference from News and opinion based media. It's okay chico ....someday you will learn.

Giantone · 08-16-2018, 06:53 PM

https://www.ctpost.com/technology/bu...e-13160463.php

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b02b415d75a064

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...umn/746389002/

https://www.chieftain.com/business/u...48384c44a.html

Knowing how you love CNN.....

https://money.cnn.com/2018/08/16/med...als/index.html

The Des Moines Register (Des Moines, Iowa)

"Reporting on growing federal deficits, climate change, disasters, voting records of lawmakers, government spending, immigration and numerous other important and controversial issues every day is not 'fake news.' Neither is reporting on a county board funneling money to private schools, the impact of Medicaid privatization in Iowa or the effects of tariffs on Iowa farmers and livestock producers, or providing information people need to recover from floods and tornadoes, all covered by Register journalists in recent months."

Topeka Capital-Journal (Topeka, Kansas)

"Not covering him aggressively would be a dereliction of duty. We know that's not always a popular stance, but it doesn't make the press the enemy of anyone. We're not separate from the public. We are the public. We live and work and play in Topeka and surrounding areas. We go to restaurants and send our children to school. We drive the same roads, see the same doctors. We're not the enemy of the people. We are the people."

Giantone · 08-19-2018, 06:27 AM

Rejecting trump, what a good idea!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...d7x?li=BBnbcA1

The Senate on Thursday approved a resolution asserting that the press is "not the enemy of the people," as President Trump has claimed, and condemning Trump's ongoing attacks against reporters.

The Senate quickly considered the resolution from Sens. Brian Schatz, D-Hawaii, and Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and passed it unanimously in a voice vote.

The resolution doesn't specifically mention Trump, but a statement from Schatz's office said the resolution was offered in the wake of Trump's effort to "attack journalists and news organizations."

Chico23231 · 08-20-2018, 09:11 AM

I see cnn is suppressing and protecting liberals in the me too movement again:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/19/u...y-bennett.html

Asia Argento Is a spokeswoman for the me too, sexual assault a minor and then paid him off.

Can’t find it in cnn, when it should a leading story. I wonder if Anthony bourdein knew?

mooby · 08-20-2018, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I see cnn is suppressing and protecting liberals in the me too movement again:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/19/u...y-bennett.html

Asia Argento Is a spokeswoman for the me too, sexual assault a minor and then paid him off.

Can’t find it in cnn, when it should a leading story. I wonder if Anthony bourdein knew?

That story just came out today. Why don't you give it a bit of time before you rush to the "they're ignoring biased content" phase?

I just read it on MSN's frontpage, it's in the main scroll about halfway down. I bet you as the buzz picks up and it gets more clicks it will make its' way to the front of the scroll.

MTK · 08-20-2018, 10:33 AM

Talking about protecting liberals while linking to the NY Times, lol

Giantone · 08-20-2018, 10:46 AM

Sorry but that is a good!

Giantone · 08-20-2018, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mooby

That story just came out today. Why don't you give it a bit of time before you rush to the "they're ignoring biased content" phase?

I just read it on MSN's frontpage, it's in the main scroll about halfway down. I bet you as the buzz picks up and it gets more clicks it will make its' way to the front of the scroll.

...............................same with yahoo

Giantone · 08-20-2018, 11:00 AM

Not a headline but on the front page at FOX

http://www.foxnews.com/

Showing as a Headline "breaking news" at CNN on front page.

https://www.cnn.com/

Giantone · 08-20-2018, 11:04 AM

chico, wrong ,.......again.

08-05-2018, 12:55 PM	#602
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14,433	Re: Media Bias Chico and Cred........... in a nutshell. https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/a...120653906.html ‘They really don’t feel like they’re winning’ QAnon began with “Q,” a persona claiming to be someone within the government, promising to expose how dark forces are working against Trump and his administration. The “Anon” part comes from Q’s readers, who decipher Q’s “clues” on message boards and build outlandish interpretations. Posters named “Q” have been instigating unfounded theories on social networks including 4Chan, 8Chan, and Reddit. “[Conspiracy theories] like this fill an important psychological role for many people,” Thomas J. Wood, an assistant professor of Political Science at Ohio State University who has studied how conspiracy theories gain public support, told Yahoo Finance. “It tends to sway those who have chronic anxiety and feel disaffected by politics by providing a symbolic and intuitive story for them.” Previous research, summarized by the New York Times, has found that people who believe in conspiracy theories “are more likely to be cynical about the world in general and politics in particular. Conspiracy theories also seem to be more compelling to those with low self-worth, especially with regard to their sense of agency in the world at large. Conspiracy theories appear to be a way of reacting to uncertainty and powerlessness.” __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.

08-16-2018, 12:02 PM	#603
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,037	Re: Media Bias Specifically, we journalists should all ask, "What are we doing that allows Trump to convince so many of 'the people' that we are their 'enemy?'" For starters, we journalists should stop attacking the people we are supposed to be informing. “If you put everyone's mouths together in this video, you'd get a full set of teeth,” one Politico reporter wrote of a Trump rally in Florida. The reporter apologized for the comment, but it already served to confirm the suspicion among working-class Republicans that the prestige press hates them. There was Katy Tur of MSNBC, who went around a Trump event asking “gotcha” questions of ordinary Americans excited to get $1,000 bonus and a lower tax rate. The clear message was that these people were too dumb to realize the tax cut and any concomitant bonuses were peanuts. We also note CNN’s crusades to punish, threaten, and deny platforms to those whose speech goes beyond the CNN-drawn boundaries of permissible dissent. In recent days, some CNN reporters have decided their job is to lobby social media platforms to kick off conspiracy theorist Alex Jones. They’ve succeeded with the largest platforms, and bragged about it. Such lobbying was odd behavior for a media outlet, and it reminded of us the time CNN sicced its investigative resources on the creator an idiotic GIF of Trump "body slamming CNN." When CNN reporters found the anonymous troll who posted the image, they threatened in print that they would “publish his identity should” he repeat such “ugly behavior.” Alex Jones and anonymous Twitter trolls are hardly sympathetic figures, but that doesn’t turn CNN’s campaigns to "dox" or de-platform them into journalism. We worry about the slippery slope here. Much of the media believe there’s no valid reason to oppose gay marriage. Buzzfeed recently ran an attack on the Christian views of TV hosts, having explained that on gay marriage “there are no two sides.” We all remember the reporters who scoured Indiana until they found a pizzamaker who was uninterested in catering a gay wedding, and was then made a national whipping boy of the pizza shop. So the average religious conservative who has seen this media behavior is justified if she's wondering when a CNN, BuzzFeed, or MSNBC reporter might show up to ruin her life for holding the “wrong” opinions, whether on guns, immigration, marriage, or even tax cuts. Then there are the times the mainstream media outright lies about conservative or working-class people. Katie Couric produced a documentary that dishonestly edited out the arguments of gun-rights supporters to make it look like she had stumped them and left them speechless. Vox.com ran a poll about voters’ immigration views and hid the fact that “taking away jobs” was voters’ No. 1 concern. Why? Probably because Vox wanted to push the idea that racism rather than “economic anxiety” drove immigration worries. Finally, when you see the New York Times hire a writer who regularly and publicly professes her hatred of white men, it seems the Times thinks such hatred is fine. So the media — from the perspective of a working-class white person, a Trump supporter, or a conservative — really can look like an adversary, and a dangerous one, with the power to destroy your life, silence you, or cost you your job. This isn’t the media holding the powerful to account. It’s the media lazily abusing those with unpopular views. Trump should stop calling the media the enemy of the people. And the media should stop doing the things that give Trump's attacks credence. Some great examples here...

08-16-2018, 01:10 PM	#604
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14,433	Re: Media Bias chico is worried about Manafort . __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.

08-16-2018, 06:53 PM	#607
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14,433	Re: Media Bias https://www.ctpost.com/technology/bu...e-13160463.php https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b02b415d75a064 https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...umn/746389002/ https://www.chieftain.com/business/u...48384c44a.html Knowing how you love CNN..... https://money.cnn.com/2018/08/16/med...als/index.html The Des Moines Register (Des Moines, Iowa) "Reporting on growing federal deficits, climate change, disasters, voting records of lawmakers, government spending, immigration and numerous other important and controversial issues every day is not 'fake news.' Neither is reporting on a county board funneling money to private schools, the impact of Medicaid privatization in Iowa or the effects of tariffs on Iowa farmers and livestock producers, or providing information people need to recover from floods and tornadoes, all covered by Register journalists in recent months." Topeka Capital-Journal (Topeka, Kansas) "Not covering him aggressively would be a dereliction of duty. We know that's not always a popular stance, but it doesn't make the press the enemy of anyone. We're not separate from the public. We are the public. We live and work and play in Topeka and surrounding areas. We go to restaurants and send our children to school. We drive the same roads, see the same doctors. We're not the enemy of the people. We are the people." __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.

08-19-2018, 06:27 AM	#608
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14,433	Re: Media Bias Rejecting trump, what a good idea! https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...d7x?li=BBnbcA1 The Senate on Thursday approved a resolution asserting that the press is "not the enemy of the people," as President Trump has claimed, and condemning Trump's ongoing attacks against reporters. The Senate quickly considered the resolution from Sens. Brian Schatz, D-Hawaii, and Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and passed it unanimously in a voice vote. The resolution doesn't specifically mention Trump, but a statement from Schatz's office said the resolution was offered in the wake of Trump's effort to "attack journalists and news organizations." __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.

08-20-2018, 09:11 AM	#609
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,037	Re: Media Bias I see cnn is suppressing and protecting liberals in the me too movement again: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/19/u...y-bennett.html Asia Argento Is a spokeswoman for the me too, sexual assault a minor and then paid him off. Can’t find it in cnn, when it should a leading story. I wonder if Anthony bourdein knew?

08-20-2018, 10:33 AM	#611
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,845	Re: Media Bias Talking about protecting liberals while linking to the NY Times, lol __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

08-20-2018, 10:46 AM	#612
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14,433	Re: Media Bias Sorry but that is a good! __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.

08-20-2018, 11:00 AM	#614
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14,433	Re: Media Bias Not a headline but on the front page at FOX http://www.foxnews.com/ Showing as a Headline "breaking news" at CNN on front page. https://www.cnn.com/ __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.

08-20-2018, 11:04 AM	#615
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14,433	Re: Media Bias chico, wrong ,.......again. __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.

Media Bias

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