All about Da'Ron Payne

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

No complaints. Great pick. Redskins have adults in the draft room, at least for last night.

I just feel w/ Payne and Allen, we need to go to the base 4-3.

Both 4-3 and 3-4 need to be considered and tried this preseason.
If we play better in 4-3 instead of 3-4 as our base defense, changing is not that big a deal. The world will not come to an end and nobody needs to feel responsible that the 3-4 did not work as well.
Let our personnel abilities and performance dictate the choice, not a person in an office that is throwing darts at a board.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Both 4-3 and 3-4 need to be considered and tried this preseason.
If we play better in 4-3 instead of 3-4 as our base defense, changing is not that big a deal. The world will not come to an end and nobody needs to feel responsible that the 3-4 did not work as well.
Let our personnel abilities and performance dictate the choice, not a person in an office that is throwing darts at a board.

Agreed. That would also be an opportunity to put Ryan Anderson in a position where he could have a better impact.

[Chief X_Phackter]

I love how there is still all this talk about switching to a 4-3 years after we "switched" to a 3-4. Fact is, they align both ways (and have for years), maybe it's 60/40 - 50/50 - 40/60 ratio of 4-3 vs 3-4 lineups...whatever...they don't sit in a 3-4 all game. The difference now is, they actually have a guy that is versatile to be in both packages.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I love how there is still all this talk about switching to a 4-3 years after we "switched" to a 3-4. Fact is, they align both ways (and have for years), maybe it's 60/40 - 50/50 - 40/60 ratio of 4-3 vs 3-4 lineups...whatever...they don't sit in a 3-4 all game. The difference now is, they actually have a guy that is versatile to be in both packages.

This is not exactly accurate.
They align in 3-4 and 4-2-5 (nickel) quite a lot, but never in 4-3, we never have 3 linebackers in the backfield (unless you count Harvey-Clemons as a LB, but he's a hybrid nickel player IMO). That makes quite a difference against the run.

Now, you do have point saying Payne can be a nose in a 3-4. But I'd like to see what Ryan Anderson can do as a Sam or Will LB.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

This is not exactly accurate.
They align in 3-4 and 4-2-5 (nickel) quite a lot, but never in 4-3, we never have 3 linebackers in the backfield (unless you count Harvey-Clemons as a LB, but he's a hybrid nickel player IMO). That makes quite a difference against the run.

Now, you do have point saying Payne can be a nose in a 3-4. But I'd like to see what Ryan Anderson can do as a Sam or Will LB.

One thing I do know is Anderson is not a OLB in a 3-4. They're wasting their time playing him there.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

One thing I do know is Anderson is not a OLB in a 3-4. They're wasting their time playing him there.

How about this? Not every high round pick pops their first year. It's doesn't mean they can't be a good player (look at our RT, Moses looked shitty year 1 and now he is a really good RT).

Let players develop. Right now, we have Preston, Zack, Mason and RK as the starting four. I like Anderson and, while he may never be flashy, I will be happy if he eventually steps in and plays like a solid every down starter.

It's great if rookies come in as plug and play, but that just not how it works for the vast majority of them.