Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

Season completions is a nothing stat. Jason Campbell had that stat before Kirk got it by throwing to his running back 7 out of 10 times. Yardage is a product of a great offensive scheme and being in that scheme for years.

Kirk cheated the offseason rules by training at Jon Gruden's camp. Similar offense concepts, that was smart, it made him better. That won't be available to him anymore. Kirk is a good between the 20's QB. Redzone he is marginal at best. Trust me... Josh Allen, Rosen, Darnold, Baker Mayfield will just as good and in time better than Kirk under Gruden and co.

And yet the great offensive scheme failed this season. I'd agree to wait and see what happens next season. I think with anything less than an elite QB, and no upgrades at WR or our run game, it's going to be really ugly next season.

And if it was cheating, you know the league would have been all over us.

And I am more and more amazed how easily Redskin fans switch from rooting for to trashing the first franchise QB we have had in awhile. It's not his fault our idiot ownership couldn't get a good deal done.

[success52]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

And yet the great offensive scheme failed this season. I'd agree to wait and see what happens next season. I think with anything less than an elite QB, and no upgrades at WR or our run game, it's going to be really ugly next season.

And if it was cheating, you know the league would have been all over us.

And I am more and more amazed how easily Redskin fans switch from rooting for to trashing the first franchise QB we have had in awhile. It's not his fault our idiot ownership couldn't get a good deal done.

Franchise QB? Really? Did you watch the last game of the season?Drew, Tom , Ben, are franchise QB’s . Kirk,average QB

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by success52

Franchise QB? Really? Did you watch the last game of the season?Drew, Tom , Ben, are franchise QB’s . Kirk,average QB

Yes I watched the last game of the season. He didn't look like a franchise QB then. Partly because he had a bad game, partly because our WR corps is young and not good, partly because the team as a whole played bad.

Did you watch the Redskins games this season? Because Kirk did look like a franchise QB then. Despite our WR corps and team as a whole not being good.

Did you watch the two seasons before last season, when he set franchise records each year? Because Kirk also looked like a franchise QB then. Our team still wasn't that good, but our WR corps was.

People saying that due to the increasing pass-happiness of the NFL, stats are meaningless. Then what happened last season compared to the past two? Answer is that even a franchise QB can only do so much, when Allen and Snyder have run down this team so much. Kirk is still a franchise QB.

Phillip Rivers is a franchise QB, Same as Stafford, Ryan, Russell Wilson, Kirk Cousins, Eli Manning. They aren't as good as Tom, Ben, and Drew. But you don't trade them until they are well past their prime, you build your team around them. You can debate where Kirk falls in that group, but he is in that group.