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Old 12-12-2017, 09:18 PM   #1
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Re: By Popular Demand. Should the Skins FIRE Jay Gruden? Thread

All season long most of you have blasted the guy for his play calling and his inability to fire up the team, and not getting it done in the red zone, but most of you want to keep him? I understand that we want to quit being a coaching carousel, but this guy is half assed at best. He couldn't coach a Division 1A school either. Seriously, which would you rather have Norv Turner or Jay Gruden? Not the greatest choices to have, but at least Norv had no problem getting it into the red zone.
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Re: By Popular Demand. Should the Skins FIRE Jay Gruden? Thread

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All season long most of you have blasted the guy for his play calling and his inability to fire up the team, and not getting it done in the red zone, but most of you want to keep him? I understand that we want to quit being a coaching carousel, but this guy is half assed at best. He couldn't coach a Division 1A school either. Seriously, which would you rather have Norv Turner or Jay Gruden? Not the greatest choices to have, but at least Norv had no problem getting it into the red zone.
You bring up a good point about our RZ problems. And we are downright brutal on 3rd and short. I am not football savvy enough to know where the cause of the Red Zone problems really lie. IIRC, we were not very good in the Red Zone even when we had a healthy team.

Jay is calling the offensive plays, right? Is it even worth it at this point to consider what it would be like if Jay hands over playcalling duties to someone else? Is that something Jay would consider?

I know it isn't good when the team takes away playcalling from a Coach, but do you think changing play callers would help at all?
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Re: By Popular Demand. Should the Skins FIRE Jay Gruden? Thread

This has been the story of this season, starter gets hurt, backup gets hurt, backup of a backup gets hurt. All endup on IR. Only coach I know that can win with replacement players is the other JG.

The Redskins placed tight end Jordan Reed on injured reserve, the team announced today. Reed played just six games this season because of a hamstring injury. He caught 27 passes this season. They also placed RB Byron Marshall and LB Chris Carter on IR. They signed RB Kapri Bibbs, LB Pete Robertson and LB Otha Peters to the active roster
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All season long most of you have blasted the guy for his play calling and his inability to fire up the team, and not getting it done in the red zone, but most of you want to keep him? I understand that we want to quit being a coaching carousel, but this guy is half assed at best. He couldn't coach a Division 1A school either. Seriously, which would you rather have Norv Turner or Jay Gruden? Not the greatest choices to have, but at least Norv had no problem getting it into the red zone.
Again, what most of you guys aren't thinking about is the fact that it won't matter who you put in as head coach, if Bruce Allen stays, it's going to be the same sorry, just rinse and repeat.
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All season long most of you have blasted the guy for his play calling and his inability to fire up the team, and not getting it done in the red zone, but most of you want to keep him? I understand that we want to quit being a coaching carousel, but this guy is half assed at best. He couldn't coach a Division 1A school either. Seriously, which would you rather have Norv Turner or Jay Gruden? Not the greatest choices to have, but at least Norv had no problem getting it into the red zone.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...one-efficiency

14th in red zone efficiency as of Nov 15 per PFF

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...ne-scoring-pct

Currently 11th here
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I think Jay and Kirk have done a great job this year in passing offense .... no receivers, battered O line, no run game. Admittedly the wheels are coming off the past few games and the team looks like they are done.

Jay isnt a top 10 head coach but Id put him in the middle of the pack. Top 10 in terms of offensive coaches go.
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https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...one-efficiency

14th in red zone efficiency as of Nov 15 per PFF

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...ne-scoring-pct

Currently 11th here
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I think Jay and Kirk have done a great job this year in passing offense .... no receivers, battered O line, no run game. Admittedly the wheels are coming off the past few games and the team looks like they are done.

Jay isnt a top 10 head coach but Id put him in the middle of the pack. Top 10 in terms of offensive coaches go.
Thanks for posting this, I was starting to wonder where these RZ complaints were coming from.
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