Kirk Cousins 365 thread

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

A not insignificant factor: a pregnant woman's relationship with her OB. You fathers know what I'm talking about. She's really not going to want to move between now and September.

Most important factor for them? No, but not to be overlooked. There are plenty of reasons why it's clear they want to be in DC.

Just general stability as a new parent, plus having his and her family relatively close

[metalskins]

Kirk Cousins seems to be the type of guy who would be cognizant about such details. Maybe it does factor in his decision a bit? I would also think a dollar goes further around areas like NoVA than it would in San Fran.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by FlyerSkin

A lot of money for mere potential.

This is why Kirk demands big money. When potential is paying out big money, proven gets more money.

[hutch17]

I actually see the extension for Gruden as a good sign for a Cousins long term deal. The two are tied to the hip and I would think that was part of Grudens deal. "I will sign long term but I want my guy here"

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by hutch17

I actually see the extension for Gruden as a good sign for a Cousins long term deal. The two are tied to the hip and I would think that was part of Grudens deal. "I will sign long term but I want my guy here"

Hopefully that is a factor. My prediction is by mid-season, we'll be looking back on this past off season and laughing at all of the stuff that went down, and we'll have our coach for another couple years, our quarterback signed for the next several years, Doctson playing great, maybe another receiver drafted or signed that's playing great, and McCloughan back in business.

[hutch17]

Originally Posted by metalskins

Hopefully that is a factor. My prediction is by mid-season, we'll be looking back on this past off season and laughing at all of the stuff that went down, and we'll have our coach for another couple years, our quarterback signed for the next several years, Doctson playing great, maybe another receiver drafted or signed that's playing great, and McCloughan back in business.

I actually agree with all of this, and think we are blowing non stories out of the water because it is so slow and we are used to 24/7 news.

I am not sure about McCloughan, I am really worried that his demons have resurfaced and that sucks, for him and us. I am starting to think that the reason for the silence on the part of the Redskins is due to Labor laws and employee protection. they legally can't say anything for risk of being sued and he is in rehab right now or was sent home for being drunk. I really hope I am wrong because that is bad for him on a personal level but that is the feeling I have in my gut right now based on what I have seen.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by hutch17

I actually agree with all of this, and think we are blowing non stories out of the water because it is so slow and we are used to 24/7 news.

I am not sure about McCloughan, I am really worried that his demons have resurfaced and that sucks, for him and us. I am starting to think that the reason for the silence on the part of the Redskins is due to Labor laws and employee protection. they legally can't say anything for risk of being sued and he is in rehab right now or was sent home for being drunk. I really hope I am wrong because that is bad for him on a personal level but that is the feeling I have in my gut right now based on what I have seen.

As a former HR person you are correct. While he is in rehab, the team cannot comment on that. They can say something like "Scott is away from the team right now dealing with personal matters", or something to that effect. One option for Scot would be to go on FMLA, under provisions of the law he can claim health reasons and have up to 12 weeks to go to rehab and what not. Once his 12 weeks are up, if Scot is no better, then the Skins can get rid of him. They would be allowed to comment on it, but they would have to watch what they say to not get sued. A statement like "Scot's rehab was unsuccessful so we had to terminate him" would be lawsuit worthy.

A statement such as "Scot is no longer an employee of this organization due to not being able to adhere to the code and guidelines that we have in place for all employees". No liability there.

The coming weeks should say alot more

[skinsfaninok]

If glennon gets 15M we are paying Kirk at least 25

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[hutch17]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

As a former HR person you are correct. While he is in rehab, the team cannot comment on that. They can say something like "Scott is away from the team right now dealing with personal matters", or something to that effect. One option for Scot would be to go on FMLA, under provisions of the law he can claim health reasons and have up to 12 weeks to go to rehab and what not. Once his 12 weeks are up, if Scot is no better, then the Skins can get rid of him. They would be allowed to comment on it, but they would have to watch what they say to not get sued. A statement like "Scot's rehab was unsuccessful so we had to terminate him" would be lawsuit worthy.

A statement such as "Scot is no longer an employee of this organization due to not being able to adhere to the code and guidelines that we have in place for all employees". No liability there.



The coming weeks should say alot more

Sounds like what you are saying is exactly what they are doing. If that is the case, I really hope he gets better.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

If glennon gets 15M we are paying Kirk at least 25

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Have you seen Glennon's stats ? He has thrown 10 passes in the last two seasons combined.

Mike Glennon Stats - Tampa Bay Buccaneers - ESPN

If Glennon's contract is an indication of QBs value, then KC is worth closer to $30 million. And we have no idea what the Redskins are now offering.... or what he is asking for.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by metalskins

Hopefully that is a factor. My prediction is by mid-season, we'll be looking back on this past off season and laughing at all of the stuff that went down, and we'll have our coach for another couple years, our quarterback signed for the next several years, Doctson playing great, maybe another receiver drafted or signed that's playing great, and McCloughan back in business.

Zero players lost so far and just extended coach after back to back winning seasons and all the media coverage paints them as being the biggest laughing stock in the league.

Skins are paying a "hurt feelings" penalty, because the local media wasn't given a heads up on Scot missing the combine. For all we know, he's been real shitty at his job the last 2 years or he's relapsed and the Skins are giving him every opportunity to work things out.

I like Scot and want him around for the long term, but there's no definitive proof that he's done such an amazing job that he should be treated as sacred. Maybe he's the reason Kirk wasn't locked up for less money last year and maybe he stood on the table for draft picks that turned out to be way worse than players others in the organization wanted to take instead. Last 2 drafts have been meh and the free agents they've brought in have been busts for the most part.

Media justifies harsh treatment using the, "they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt argument", but I'm reserving judgement until there are actual results to be judged.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Zero players lost so far and just extended coach after back to back winning seasons and all the media coverage paints them as being the biggest laughing stock in the league.

Skins are paying a "hurt feelings" penalty, because the local media wasn't given a heads up on Scot missing the combine. For all we know, he's been real shitty at his job the last 2 years or he's relapsed and the Skins are giving him every opportunity to work things out.

I like Scot and want him around for the long term, but there's no definitive proof that he's done such an amazing job that he should be treated as sacred. Maybe he's the reason Kirk wasn't locked up for less money last year and maybe he stood on the table for draft picks that turned out to be way worse than players others in the organization wanted to take instead. Last 2 drafts have been meh and the free agents they've brought in have been busts for the most part.

Media justifies harsh treatment using the, "they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt argument", but I'm reserving judgement until there are actual results to be judged.

I know you touched on this in the other thread, but I also added that you can't judge a draft after one season. And secondly, how do you know that Scot has truly had full and complete reign over player acquisitions? I would just about bet all this got started because Allen is unwilling to completely give Scot full control as what a GM should have.

[Alvin Walton]

The rumor mill is showing Glennon goes to the Bears.
So if that means starter money then the Cousins camp is really gonna tune in to those $$$.

[sdskinsfan2001]

You Would Treat Kirk Cousins the Same Way | The MMQB with Peter King

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

You Would Treat Kirk Cousins the Same Way | The MMQB with Peter King

Interesting. I still think Kirk Cousins has leverage and knows the team needs him and likely not to win very many games without him unless the defense greatly improves.