Kirk Cousins 365 thread

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Do you mean a QB who got the non-exclusive franchise tag? Like Matt Cassell in 2009 or Kirk Cousins last year?

The tag that Cousins got last year was a non-exclusive?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by metalskins

The tag that Cousins got last year was a non-exclusive?

yup - Washington Redskins franchise tag Kirk Cousins - NFL.com

The Washington Redskins used their non-exclusive franchise tag on Cousins, the team announced Tuesday. The designation acts as a one-year, $19.95 million contract for the quarterback, who picked a wonderful time to enjoy a breakout season in 2015

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

yup - Washington Redskins franchise tag Kirk Cousins - NFL.com

That's interesting. Don't know how I missed that. I assumed it was the exclusive. Maybe because I never heard of any teams wanting to negotiate with Cousins last offseason.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Do you mean a QB who got the non-exclusive franchise tag? Like Matt Cassell in 2009 or Kirk Cousins last year?

No I meant more along the lines of a true franchise qb, like a Manning or a Brees. I like Kirk, don't get me wrong, but there were still doubts last offseason about him being a true franchise qb, and Matt Cassel was decent in '09 (iirc correctly that was the year he was coming off the 11-5 season for the Pats) but he wasn't "elite qb decent."

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by mooby

No I meant more along the lines of a true franchise qb, like a Manning or a Brees. I like Kirk, don't get me wrong, but there were still doubts last offseason about him being a true franchise qb, and Matt Cassel was decent in '09 (iirc correctly that was the year he was coming off the 11-5 season for the Pats) but he wasn't "elite qb decent."

Not sure I'm following your point. True franchise quarterbacks don't get the franchise tag? So, Kirk Cousins isn't franchise quarterback material?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by metalskins

Not sure I'm following your point. True franchise quarterbacks don't get the franchise tag? So, Kirk Cousins isn't franchise quarterback material?

No, my point is when a truly elite qb like a Manning or Brees has their contract about to expire, they get exclusive franchise tags. I assume Kirk will get a non-exclusive tag just because that's what they did last year. If they don't even want to entertain offers he will get the exclusive tag though.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by mooby

No I meant more along the lines of a true franchise qb, like a Manning or a Brees. I like Kirk, don't get me wrong, but there were still doubts last offseason about him being a true franchise qb, and Matt Cassel was decent in '09 (iirc correctly that was the year he was coming off the 11-5 season for the Pats) but he wasn't "elite qb decent."

I figured that's what you meant. Like if there is no doubt, you take no chances of losing him.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I figured that's what you meant. Like if there is no doubt, you take no chances of losing him.

Exactly. I'm not positive they like Kirk that much though.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

Exactly. I'm not positive they like Kirk that much though.

They should.....

[mooby]

Originally Posted by punch it in

They should.....

I agree. There are clearly no other options that are even close to what Kirk can do. I do think there's some truth to the idea that Dan isn't Kirk's biggest fan though. Hopefully the people around him will be able to convince him to sign the check though, we already have enough holes to fill.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I'd love to know the real inside scoop on the Dan deal. Like did he want RG3's babies so bad he just hates on Kirk? I mean the team is obviously on the upswing and a LOT is due to Cousins. I don't get it.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Do you mean a QB who got the non-exclusive franchise tag? Like Matt Cassell in 2009 or Kirk Cousins last year?

i like it, use it again if need be. welcome back smooty!

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I'd love to know the real inside scoop on the Dan deal. Like did he want RG3's babies so bad he just hates on Kirk? I mean the team is obviously on the upswing and a LOT is due to Cousins. I don't get it.

We may never know. I have speculated about it lots, and it is my belief that Cousins and specifically his success here is a constant reminder to Dan about his horrible failure with the RG3 deal.

Shanahan drafted Cousins for a reason, to have as a backup plan incase RG3 didn't work out. If you believe what Shanahan says, he had some doubt from day one. If Shanahan had stayed, he would have installed Cousins as his starter, no question.

At the end of the day, Dan's ego certainly over-rides everything else. Make no mistakes about it, he will absolutely send Cousins packing if he feels he has to in order to stay "in the right" in his mind. And in Dan's mind he will draft the next superstar QB, and get the #1 jersey sales, merchandise, etc... That's all it's ever been about with him. He wants to win, sure, as long as winning goes along with him reaching his other goals.

[skinsfan69]

At this point we don't know what Snyder thinks. It's really all speculation cause he never ever talks to the media.

[SirLK26]

Redskins Audio | ESPN 980

Listen to the John Keim interview here with Steve Czaban. He touches on my earlier point about the use of the franchise tag and how thats a poor option for the Skins if they want to get a long term deal done