Off season begins.

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Brunell had a good season in 2005, he was bothered in the playoffs by a leg injury and he couldn't plant his foot to throw. But as you say he was aging and starting to become brittle. I still feel today that Brunell was a scapegoat in 2006 for the entire redskins offense being cursed by Al Saunders and his famous 1000 page playbook.

IMO, Brunell was a main part of why we crapped the bed in 2006. He sucked like the dickens. Our defense had fallen off that season, as well, but we still played close in most games. Our offense sucked so bad due to Brunell. I wanted to take a chance on Collins in the 2006 season because he knew the system. I didn't think he'd set the world on fire (although, he ended up having a heckuva ride during our 2007 playoff rally following the death of Sean Taylor), but I felt he couldn't be any worse than Brunell.

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Was that the game Sean Taylor got ejected from for spitting and where he also has a fumble return for TD?

That was the game.

[Bangee7]

Curious to know where specifically anyone feels that this year's team was better than last year's version.

Here are my feelings-
QB- same, beat up the slackers & choke in tough games
RB- same (amateurs)
TE/WR- same (solid both years)
OL - same (great pass pro, can't run block)

DL-worse (old)
LB- worse (just as slow)
CB-same to worse
S- same old shit

K- worse
P-same

The other thing that bugs me is paying Josh Norman $75M for 2 personal fouls to help the other team score. Jay G should've have pulled his ass out to send a message.
The guy keeps putting his own agenda ahead of the team's.


I feel like the Eagles are on their way up, the Giants have proven they are better than us & Dallas is the class of the league. I just don't see a lot of hope for next year.

That falls on Scott IMO.
I wasn't wild about the draft (especially when it was loaded with DT & we end up with Ioannidis- wow, thanks Scott)

He's got some work ahead of him before we can be contenders.

Joe Barry should be fired, but the next man in won't be able to work magic without more talent.

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by Bangee7

I feel like the Eagles are on their way up, the Giants have proven they are better than us & Dallas is the class of the league. I just don't see a lot of hope for next year.

I'd be careful about placing "labels" on any team outside of New England, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Seattle, and Baltimore (although, they've missed the postseason the past two seasons).

Those are the ONLY teams who have shown a level of consistency in this league in the past 5-10 seasons. Everyone else has been up-and-down or just flat-out sucked.

Until, I see a level of consistency from anyone in the NFC East, then you just don't know.

That falls on Scott IMO.
I wasn't wild about the draft (especially when it was loaded with DT & we end up with Ioannidis- wow, thanks Scott)

He's got some work ahead of him before we can be contenders.

Joe Barry should be fired, but the next man in won't be able to work magic without more talent.

The 2016 draft does leave a lot to be desired, but if three players turn out alright (Cravens seems to be on his way), then the draft was a success. It's still too early to "call out" this draft, per se'.

Sure, SMAC has his work out cut out for us to be a contender, but I want him to build this thing where we're routinely competing like the teams I mentioned above. Outside of the Pats, Steelers, and Packers, who all have HOF'er type QB's who can carry their respective teams.... The Ravens and Seahawks have solid and steady QB play, but have solid line play (Seattle O-line struggled this season) on both sides of the ball, and defenses who can win or help win games.

I agree, in reference to Barry being fired. Bring in a more competent coordinator, and start building the defense.

[skinsfaninok]

So kirk beating GB, Baltimore and NYG were easy opponents... Ok

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk

[skinsfaninok]

Redskins rookie Su'a Cravens said "I can't wait" to play safety next season. He will work out with former Redskins safety Ryan Clark and Giants safety Landon Collins in the offseason.

I like this kid, and Collins is the best S in football right now.

[skinsqc]

Why can't we just go back to a 4-3 defense. We have so many holes to fill why not scrap the 3-4 it's not working.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Redskins rookie Su'a Cravens said "I can't wait" to play safety next season. He will work out with former Redskins safety Ryan Clark and Giants safety Landon Collins in the offseason.

I like this kid, and Collins is the best S in football right now.

Great, looks like one less hole to fill!

[irish]

While the end of the 2016 was a disappointment I think the team is trending in the right direction. There is still lots of room for improvement and I think the #1 thing to address in the off=season is the D. The Skins D as currently constructed just didn't allow them to a real chance to win over the long haul.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by irish

While the end of the 2016 was a disappointment I think the team is trending in the right direction. There is still lots of room for improvement and I think the #1 thing to address in the off=season is the D. The Skins D as currently constructed just didn't allow them to a real chance to win over the long haul.

Agreed, yet.. they really did put together a few very.. impressive 2nd half performances this season inclouding sunday .. the offense IMO is just as much and some games much much more to blame.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Meks

Agreed, yet.. they really did put together a few very.. impressive 2nd half performances this season inclouding sunday .. the offense IMO is just as much and some games much much more to blame.

The D definitely put the team in position to win on Sunday and unfortunately the O laid an egg.

To me all season the O had to score 30 points for the team to have a realistic shot at winning because the D was gonna give up 20+. That's a lot of pressure and no margin for error. Is there room for improvement on O, absolutely but I think the D has to be the #1 focus in the off-season.

[MTK]

The offense set all sorts of franchise records this year. The D on the other hand was pretty much bottom of the barrel in most categories. With just a middle of the pack D we could have won several more games.

The primary focus this offseason better be the D, I'm sure SM is well aware of that.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

The offense set all sorts of franchise records this year. The D on the other hand was pretty much bottom of the barrel in most categories. With just a middle of the pack D we could have won several more games.

The primary focus this offseason better be the D, I'm sure SM is well aware of that.

32nd in 3rd down defense. It was historically bad. That's due to lack of pass rush and lack of speed on the back end.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Bangee7

Curious to know where specifically anyone feels that this year's team was better than last year's version.

Here are my feelings-
QB- same, beat up the slackers & choke in tough games
RB- same (amateurs)
TE/WR- same (solid both years)
OL - same (great pass pro, can't run block)

DL-worse (old)
LB- worse (just as slow)
CB-same to worse
S- same old shit

K- worse
P-same

The other thing that bugs me is paying Josh Norman $75M for 2 personal fouls to help the other team score. Jay G should've have pulled his ass out to send a message.
The guy keeps putting his own agenda ahead of the team's.


I feel like the Eagles are on their way up, the Giants have proven they are better than us & Dallas is the class of the league. I just don't see a lot of hope for next year.

That falls on Scott IMO.
I wasn't wild about the draft (especially when it was loaded with DT & we end up with Ioannidis- wow, thanks Scott)

He's got some work ahead of him before we can be contenders.

Joe Barry should be fired, but the next man in won't be able to work magic without more talent.

How did we have a winning season, were strongly competitive in 14 games & just miss the playoffs on the last weekend of the season?

And the Eagles on the way up? We smoked them twice and they got the most holes to fill in the division by far. Doug Peterson was not a very good in his first season

[skinsfaninok]

I love our offense don't get me wrong but I'd rather have a team set up like Seattle, score about 24 PpG and run the ball. We are more like New Orleans, all we do is air it out, makes the QB and wrs look good but it ultimately doesn't win many games. It was proven this yr, when kirk threw for 300 plus yards we were under 500.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk