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Old 11-28-2016, 08:43 PM   #1
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Re: Should the Redskins Extend Jay Gruden’s Contract?

Yes, extend Gruden for sure. I agree that Barry should get another year because his cupboard is bare. We need upgrades at DL, ILB & S at a minimum before he can be fairly evaluated.
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Yes, extend Gruden for sure. I agree that Barry should get another year because his cupboard is bare. We need upgrades at DL, ILB & S at a minimum before he can be fairly evaluated.
I would flip that thinking around a bit and ask you if you think Joe Barry has shown any ability to elevate the defense beyond its talent level?

I have seen no such evidence, meaning it will take top 5 talent to generate a top 5 defense. By the same token he doesn't have this group underachieving.

So I conclude he's "meh".

If you think there's a better, no brainer D Coordinator candidate on the market this offseason, you have to make the move. Super Bowl winners manage to get more than the sum of their parts. So far Barry hasn't shown that ability.
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I would flip that thinking around a bit and ask you if you think Joe Barry has shown any ability to elevate the defense beyond its talent level?

I have seen no such evidence, meaning it will take top 5 talent to generate a top 5 defense. By the same token he doesn't have this group underachieving.

So I conclude he's "meh".

If you think there's a better, no brainer D Coordinator candidate on the market this offseason, you have to make the move. Super Bowl winners manage to get more than the sum of their parts. So far Barry hasn't shown that ability.

I'm not saying he's a Wade Phillips, but he's not the same 'ole 0-16 guy he was in Detroit either.

Tied for 7th in the league in sacks with Kerrigan, Murphy & Smith. Anyone one of them having a stellar year in your mind? Outside of Baker, nobody is getting an internal push. Losing Gallete late was a big blow, but it just proves our depth still needs work.

Tied for 4th in Forced Fumbles, I'll take that about every year.

Rather than having to break in a new defense (again), I'd like to see just a few upgrades...add 2 DL, an ILB and a Safety.

Did you seriously feel good having Golston/Hood/Ricky Jean as front liners with Baker? I sure didn't.

IMO, if we add just four athletes, who are a tad faster & who tackle just a bit better, I have no doubt we bounce up to become a top 10 defense with Barry.
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I would flip that thinking around a bit and ask you if you think Joe Barry has shown any ability to elevate the defense beyond its talent level?



I have seen no such evidence, meaning it will take top 5 talent to generate a top 5 defense. By the same token he doesn't have this group underachieving.



So I conclude he's "meh".



If you think there's a better, no brainer D Coordinator candidate on the market this offseason, you have to make the move. Super Bowl winners manage to get more than the sum of their parts. So far Barry hasn't shown that ability.


At Baltimore, vs Philly, and vs Minny I think that Barry showed he could get more bang for his buck for sure. We absolutely dominated Philly on defense. Held Minny to a big goose egg in the second half.
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