Who is Kirk Cousins?

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DY-

You are conflating the issue. I have always been talking about how Russ/Kaep played during their SB run. You are jumping around and somehow including your opinion of them this year and your overall opinion of them which both have nothing to do with how they played in those years.

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

They weren't number 1 in PPG, YPG, or total yards or total points. They were number 1 in F.O. DVOA ranking which is a good measure in my opinion.

You're again making my point. The Seahawks offense with roughly the same personnel jumped from 22nd in DVOA to 1st. DVOA is a much better measure of an offense then yards. Yards is impacted for better or worse by the quality or lack there of by the defense. Having a bad defense can mask empty yards and likewise having a good defense can reduce the yards of a good offense, especially passing yards.
But even in raw counting stats Seattles offense jumped with Wilson's arrival from 28th to 17th. And from 21st to 3rd in rushing. How do you account for that jump? Lynch just decided to be a more productive runner when Wilson arrived? How many other QBs can you plug in and have that type of increase? PPG They went from 23rd to 9th.

I don't see anything from the stats, (thats without even getting to his clutch play/game winning drives and playmaking) that shows Wilson's production on offense being propped up.

But, ive prolly already given this discussion more credence then it warranted.

Originally Posted by DY

Nobody is propping Kirk up this year, and Wilson only has the defense propping him up and you can see what the rankings are.

Well when I look at this offense it looks to me like Kirk is being aided by a passing game designed and called to protect and facilitate his success which has come at the detriment of the run game. And his YPA is close to league worst.

But I get it. You feel better about Kirk by somehow diminishing what Russ and Kaep did in their SB runs.

Either way I'm done, it was a good trytophan induced convo but im exhausted.

If Kirk can become as "propped up" as Wilson was during their SB runs I'll gladly take that kind of propped up prodction from Kirk.