Who is Kirk Cousins?

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Was waiting for someone to accuse me of comparing KC to Young in terms of talent. Never did I even hint at such a thing. I was simply comparing the facts that they started their careers as bench warmers in the wings. Only because you make it sound like KC is a journeyman qb - he is in a weird situation like Young to begin a career. Usfl teams and the Bucs are comparable to the crap team Cousins has had to "learn " from. Remember Young went to BYU so he was 23 when his pro career began and his time in TB was less than horrible. Threw twice as many picks as td's in those couple years but Walsh thought he had potential so he rode the pine in San Fran. If TB had A Colt Mcoy there is a good chance he would have been benched for him.
Edit: i dont want to believe in magic, or do i think - once again - that Cousins will pan out for sure. I simply want to give him a fair shake. Imo its been 8 weeks. In yours its been 4 years.

Kirk Cousins was 24 on opening day of his first NFL pro season. Same with Young. Young started 19 games in his first two NFL seasons. After that, in his third year he had 10 TD and 0 INT's in his first year in SF. In his fourth year (when he was 27), Young started 3 games and threw 3 TD/3 INT's and after that his TD/INT ratio never worse than 2/1 and generally much better. Young was never, ever, ever, deemed anything other than as the presumed heir apparent to Montana after his acquisition.

As for the bolded part, it just shows to me how you will ignore facts to make it fit your theory. Young started. He had 19 games of starting experience in TBay after which Walsh saw something that made him want to trade a 2nd and 4th for the guy. But somehow, b/c they weren't "quality starts," we're going to alter reality so that it fits into the "KC just got a late start" narrative.

Last year, KC was given a fair shake. Christ, Gruden was begging for him to stake a claim and end the RGIII drama. And, I'm sorry, it HAS been four years and not just eight weeks - that just plain seeing what you want to see and ignoring facts. HE IS A 27 YEAR OLD, FOURTH YEAR PLAYER. You cannot alter the time/space continuum and to wipe out what has gone before. You cannot ignore what he has been these past three. Tough road or not, he has been consistently inconsistent.

Right now, KC is not a journeyman QB. I expect that, eventually, he will be much like Grossman, Foles, Bradford, Campbell, etc. He's got the talent to bang around the league for a while whether here or someplace else. I just don't expect him to be anything other than who he has shown himself to be these last four years.