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Old 03-05-2014, 11:31 AM   #1
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.

Putin is becoming a big pain but I cant help but think that all our proxy wars with former USSR nations that border current Russia (attempting nato missile defense system in Poland and Turkey, steering Ukraine pro EU/West, totally destabilizing Iraq, sanctioning Iran) is the reason.

We have effed with Russia repeatedly with countries right at their door step and Putin is right to say the US sits across the pond and treats other countries like lab rats in political experiments.

I despise Putin but we are serious international jerks.

I also think Putin was very dumb to act so unilaterally and aggressively and the US and EU can really capitalize on this opportunity. No one is standing with Russia on this.

Russian economy has lost over 75 billion on Monday alone.

USA can now justify some of their clandestine political interference.
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Old 03-05-2014, 06:25 PM   #2
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.

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Putin is becoming a big pain but I cant help but think that all our proxy wars with former USSR nations that border current Russia (attempting nato missile defense system in Poland and Turkey, steering Ukraine pro EU/West, totally destabilizing Iraq, sanctioning Iran) is the reason.

We have effed with Russia repeatedly with countries right at their door step and Putin is right to say the US sits across the pond and treats other countries like lab rats in political experiments.

I despise Putin but we are serious international jerks.

I also think Putin was very dumb to act so unilaterally and aggressively and the US and EU can really capitalize on this opportunity. No one is standing with Russia on this.

Russian economy has lost over 75 billion on Monday alone.

USA can now justify some of their clandestine political interference.
None of our actions that you describe are "proxy wars" by us.

Please don't blame any of what Putin is doing to Ukraine on us. He did the same thing to Georgia: "Russify" a region over time, then split that territory off into a client state friendly to Russia.

We aren't treating other countries as lab experiments. A better analogy would be that Putin is playing Go with/on Eastern Europe.
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