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Old 12-02-2013, 09:03 AM   #1
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I like how people are still fired up at this point, like you were expecting anything different from this team last night? lol

Miserable performances by the OL and receivers, to me those two units are glaring reasons why the offense struggles to maintain any consistency. I'm tired of seeing Polumbus and Chester getting schooled and how many dropped passes can you have in one night? Unreal.

On defense what else can you say, the cupboard is so bare outside of Hall, Rak, Kerrigan, Cofield, and probably Riley. All the rest are scrubs and shouldn't even be starting.

Hey at least that 2nd rd pick will be a high one eh?
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I like how people are still fired up at this point, like you were expecting anything different from this team last night? lol

Miserable performances by the OL and receivers, to me those two units are glaring reasons why the offense struggles to maintain any consistency. I'm tired of seeing Polumbus and Chester getting schooled and how many dropped passes can you have in one night? Unreal.

On defense what else can you say, the cupboard is so bare outside of Hall, Rak, Kerrigan, Cofield, and probably Riley. All the rest are scrubs and shouldn't even be starting.

Hey at least that 2nd rd pick will be a high one eh?

Friend of mine text me and said "how did u lose to NYG?" I replied REALLY?
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I like how people are still fired up at this point, like you were expecting anything different from this team last night? lol

Miserable performances by the OL and receivers, to me those two units are glaring reasons why the offense struggles to maintain any consistency. I'm tired of seeing Polumbus and Chester getting schooled and how many dropped passes can you have in one night? Unreal.

On defense what else can you say, the cupboard is so bare outside of Hall, Rak, Kerrigan, Cofield, and probably Riley. All the rest are scrubs and shouldn't even be starting.

Hey at least that 2nd rd pick will be a high one eh?
I imagine this conversation between them last night.
Chester: That 91 dude is pretty good.
Polumbus:Yeah someone should block him
Chester: Yeah
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I imagine this conversation between them last night.
Chester: That 91 dude is pretty good.
Polumbus:Yeah someone should block him
Chester: Yeah
LMAO !!! Davis and Garcon's conversation after the game , Davis " If it weren't for the Giants , I would have made that catch ,DAMN " !! Garcon, yeah ,,,,,, me too !!!
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Well, after last night, anybody who pins this on RGIII is a moron. After last night, I don't ever want to hear anything else out of Pierre Garcon and especially Santana Moss about Robert Griffin III. How much leadership did Moss show last night getting an unsportsmanlike conduct foul? How much leadership did Garcon show dropping passes and fumbling that last pass into the hands of the DB? Or kicking the ball in the stands? Griffin did what he could to make plays. How can he make plays when Chester and Polumbus consistently refuses to block? How do you let someone like Justin Tuck have a free shot to the quarterback? Tuck had 2 1/2 sacks all year before last night. He had 4 sacks in last night's game alone. Don't talk to me about Griffin's inability to read defenses and refusal to go through his progressions. Take a few snaps behind THAT offensive line and tell me how well you're able to go through your reads.

Secondly, I keep hearing people say that Jordan Reed is glass. You know, Art Monk had some injury issues early on in his career. Wound up having a hall of fame career. Reed is going to be something special in this league. He got a freakin' concussion. It's not like he stayed out of the game because his pinky hurts. You deal away Reed and you're no better than Vinny Cerrato. In fact, you're worse. So shut up about Jordan Reed. Seeing Fred Davis consistently drop easy catches should show you why he was deactivated several weeks ago. Davis is trash. Plain and simple. He needs to go, along with Chris Chester and especially Tyler Polumbus. Santana Moss is still capable of making plays, but for every good play he makes, he cancels it out with stupid mistakes or drops. So, sorry Moss, I loved ya a few years ago, but you need to go as well. And Aldrick Robinson. So much speed and elusiveness, but all for nothing if you can't catch the freakin' football.

And finally, the #1 rushing attack in the league, and where did Alfred Morris go in the second half? This has been a constant gripe of mine all season long. Alfred Morris is a play maker. And you go away from him in the second half? WTF Kyle Shanahan? Yes, maybe Roy Helu is faster and more appropriate for the no huddle offense, but in the end, Morris is one of the best rushers in the league. YOU HAVE TO PUT YOUR BEST PLAYERS ON THE FIELD! It's not like the 'skins were ever behind by a lot of points. Kyle Shanahan has done this so many times during the season. Morris catches steam the longer the game goes on. Kind of like how John Riggins was back in the glory days. You wear the defense down with a heavy dose of Alfred Morris - THAT is when you crank up the passing. Kyle Shanahan always seems to go away too early from the running game. I just don't understand that all.

I figure most of us are probably in agreement with the defense. The secondary is trash. That's nothing new. It needs to be badly upgraded. I know there was some hate being thrown toward Orakpo this year, but I think it's a mistake to cut him loose. I think you need to keep him around. Adding some depth to that defensive line will improve that front play - and we'll see more of what we expect from Rak and Kerrigan. I don't like Jim Haslett as well and will be very disappointed if he is retained after this season, but I do wonder if Haslett is given an improved secondary and depth on that defensive line, if he would fair better? I fear, though, there are so many issues with that defense that one off season is not going to fix that.

And I don't even want to talk about special teams. They're horrible. 'nuff said.

I just want this freakin' season to hurry up and end. It's a nightmare to say the least.
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Well, after last night, anybody who pins this on RGIII is a moron. After last night, I don't ever want to hear anything else out of Pierre Garcon and especially Santana Moss about Robert Griffin III. How much leadership did Moss show last night getting an unsportsmanlike conduct foul? How much leadership did Garcon show dropping passes and fumbling that last pass into the hands of the DB? Or kicking the ball in the stands? Griffin did what he could to make plays. How can he make plays when Chester and Polumbus consistently refuses to block? How do you let someone like Justin Tuck have a free shot to the quarterback? Tuck had 2 1/2 sacks all year before last night. He had 4 sacks in last night's game alone. Don't talk to me about Griffin's inability to read defenses and refusal to go through his progressions. Take a few snaps behind THAT offensive line and tell me how well you're able to go through your reads.

Secondly, I keep hearing people say that Jordan Reed is glass. You know, Art Monk had some injury issues early on in his career. Wound up having a hall of fame career. Reed is going to be something special in this league. He got a freakin' concussion. It's not like he stayed out of the game because his pinky hurts. You deal away Reed and you're no better than Vinny Cerrato. In fact, you're worse. So shut up about Jordan Reed. Seeing Fred Davis consistently drop easy catches should show you why he was deactivated several weeks ago. Davis is trash. Plain and simple. He needs to go, along with Chris Chester and especially Tyler Polumbus. Santana Moss is still capable of making plays, but for every good play he makes, he cancels it out with stupid mistakes or drops. So, sorry Moss, I loved ya a few years ago, but you need to go as well. And Aldrick Robinson. So much speed and elusiveness, but all for nothing if you can't catch the freakin' football.

And finally, the #1 rushing attack in the league, and where did Alfred Morris go in the second half? This has been a constant gripe of mine all season long. Alfred Morris is a play maker. And you go away from him in the second half? WTF Kyle Shanahan? Yes, maybe Roy Helu is faster and more appropriate for the no huddle offense, but in the end, Morris is one of the best rushers in the league. YOU HAVE TO PUT YOUR BEST PLAYERS ON THE FIELD! It's not like the 'skins were ever behind by a lot of points. Kyle Shanahan has done this so many times during the season. Morris catches steam the longer the game goes on. Kind of like how John Riggins was back in the glory days. You wear the defense down with a heavy dose of Alfred Morris - THAT is when you crank up the passing. Kyle Shanahan always seems to go away too early from the running game. I just don't understand that all.

I figure most of us are probably in agreement with the defense. The secondary is trash. That's nothing new. It needs to be badly upgraded. I know there was some hate being thrown toward Orakpo this year, but I think it's a mistake to cut him loose. I think you need to keep him around. Adding some depth to that defensive line will improve that front play - and we'll see more of what we expect from Rak and Kerrigan. I don't like Jim Haslett as well and will be very disappointed if he is retained after this season, but I do wonder if Haslett is given an improved secondary and depth on that defensive line, if he would fair better? I fear, though, there are so many issues with that defense that one off season is not going to fix that.

And I don't even want to talk about special teams. They're horrible. 'nuff said.

I just want this freakin' season to hurry up and end. It's a nightmare to say the least.

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Well, after last night, anybody who pins this on RGIII is a moron. After last night, I don't ever want to hear anything else out of Pierre Garcon and especially Santana Moss about Robert Griffin III. How much leadership did Moss show last night getting an unsportsmanlike conduct foul? How much leadership did Garcon show dropping passes and fumbling that last pass into the hands of the DB? Or kicking the ball in the stands? Griffin did what he could to make plays. How can he make plays when Chester and Polumbus consistently refuses to block? How do you let someone like Justin Tuck have a free shot to the quarterback? Tuck had 2 1/2 sacks all year before last night. He had 4 sacks in last night's game alone. Don't talk to me about Griffin's inability to read defenses and refusal to go through his progressions. Take a few snaps behind THAT offensive line and tell me how well you're able to go through your reads.

Secondly, I keep hearing people say that Jordan Reed is glass. You know, Art Monk had some injury issues early on in his career. Wound up having a hall of fame career. Reed is going to be something special in this league. He got a freakin' concussion. It's not like he stayed out of the game because his pinky hurts. You deal away Reed and you're no better than Vinny Cerrato. In fact, you're worse. So shut up about Jordan Reed. Seeing Fred Davis consistently drop easy catches should show you why he was deactivated several weeks ago. Davis is trash. Plain and simple. He needs to go, along with Chris Chester and especially Tyler Polumbus. Santana Moss is still capable of making plays, but for every good play he makes, he cancels it out with stupid mistakes or drops. So, sorry Moss, I loved ya a few years ago, but you need to go as well. And Aldrick Robinson. So much speed and elusiveness, but all for nothing if you can't catch the freakin' football.

And finally, the #1 rushing attack in the league, and where did Alfred Morris go in the second half? This has been a constant gripe of mine all season long. Alfred Morris is a play maker. And you go away from him in the second half? WTF Kyle Shanahan? Yes, maybe Roy Helu is faster and more appropriate for the no huddle offense, but in the end, Morris is one of the best rushers in the league. YOU HAVE TO PUT YOUR BEST PLAYERS ON THE FIELD! It's not like the 'skins were ever behind by a lot of points. Kyle Shanahan has done this so many times during the season. Morris catches steam the longer the game goes on. Kind of like how John Riggins was back in the glory days. You wear the defense down with a heavy dose of Alfred Morris - THAT is when you crank up the passing. Kyle Shanahan always seems to go away too early from the running game. I just don't understand that all.

I figure most of us are probably in agreement with the defense. The secondary is trash. That's nothing new. It needs to be badly upgraded. I know there was some hate being thrown toward Orakpo this year, but I think it's a mistake to cut him loose. I think you need to keep him around. Adding some depth to that defensive line will improve that front play - and we'll see more of what we expect from Rak and Kerrigan. I don't like Jim Haslett as well and will be very disappointed if he is retained after this season, but I do wonder if Haslett is given an improved secondary and depth on that defensive line, if he would fair better? I fear, though, there are so many issues with that defense that one off season is not going to fix that.

And I don't even want to talk about special teams. They're horrible. 'nuff said.

I just want this freakin' season to hurry up and end. It's a nightmare to say the least.
Anyone who pins THIS loss on RG3 is crazy. He played a great game. However, you seem to be brushing with broad strokes. There are games that RG3 has played well and people failed him -- but there are games where he failed the team as well. He's going through the struggles of a young QB. What concerns me, is he seems to have lost the trust/respect of his WRs. Regardless of whoevers fault that is, if it is the case it's bad.
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Anyone who pins THIS loss on RG3 is crazy. He played a great game. However, you seem to be brushing with broad strokes. There are games that RG3 has played well and people failed him -- but there are games where he failed the team as well. He's going through the struggles of a young QB. What concerns me, is he seems to have lost the trust/respect of his WRs. Regardless of whoevers fault that is, if it is the case it's bad.
You completely misunderstood my point.
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Anyone who pins THIS loss on RG3 is crazy. He played a great game. However, you seem to be brushing with broad strokes. There are games that RG3 has played well and people failed him -- but there are games where he failed the team as well. He's going through the struggles of a young QB. What concerns me, is he seems to have lost the trust/respect of his WRs. Regardless of whoevers fault that is, if it is the case it's bad.
It is the case it looks like.
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I like how people are still fired up at this point, like you were expecting anything different from this team last night? lolMiserable performances by the OL and receivers, to me those two units are glaring reasons why the offense struggles to maintain any consistency. I'm tired of seeing Polumbus and Chester getting schooled and how many dropped passes can you have in one night? Unreal.

On defense what else can you say, the cupboard is so bare outside of Hall, Rak, Kerrigan, Cofield, and probably Riley. All the rest are scrubs and shouldn't even be starting.

Hey at least that 2nd rd pick will be a high one eh?
Honestly I was. The Giants are not a good team, they are beatable and we're at home. And the team came out strong last night for the first effing time all year. I had hope Matty. Its just frustrating to see the offense sputter again in the second half, the drop passes, argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One thing killing me are the stupid f*cking penalties: the multiple unsportsman like, the kicking of the ball by garcon, the false start by FD...This is stuff we can control.
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I like how people are still fired up at this point, like you were expecting anything different from this team last night? lol

Miserable performances by the OL and receivers, to me those two units are glaring reasons why the offense struggles to maintain any consistency. I'm tired of seeing Polumbus and Chester getting schooled and how many dropped passes can you have in one night? Unreal.

On defense what else can you say, the cupboard is so bare outside of Hall, Rak, Kerrigan, Cofield, and probably Riley. All the rest are scrubs and shouldn't even be starting.

Hey at least that 2nd rd pick will be a high one eh?
What are you talking about Matty, it's all the coaches' fault. Just replace them and everything will be okay.
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I like how people are still fired up at this point, like you were expecting anything different from this team last night? lol

Miserable performances by the OL and receivers, to me those two units are glaring reasons why the offense struggles to maintain any consistency. I'm tired of seeing Polumbus and Chester getting schooled and how many dropped passes can you have in one night? Unreal.

On defense what else can you say, the cupboard is so bare outside of Hall, Rak, Kerrigan, Cofield, and probably Riley. All the rest are scrubs and shouldn't even be starting.

Hey at least that 2nd rd pick will be a high one eh?
You moved straight from the position where you criticized people for not having any faith in the team to correct things right into criticizing people for having any expectations for the team whatsoever.

I have to admit, that was pretty smooth.
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You moved straight from the position where you criticized people for not having any faith in the team to correct things right into criticizing people for having any expectations for the team whatsoever.

I have to admit, that was pretty smooth.
Wasn't my intention but ok. More of an observation than criticism with my first point.
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