The Redskins want to replace Jon Jansen for good

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I didn't see anything about the Giants D-line destroying us in this article.

Ha, ha, you are funny!!

[70Chip]

So they blame the defense and the offensive line for last year's collapse. For some people it really is a struggle to see what's right in front of their noses.

The deal with Wide Receivers is that they can either play or they can't. Try and think of a WR that struggled, struggled, and then was great all of the sudden in year 3. I can't either. Name me a receiver that had a rookie season like the two stiffs we drafted that ever amounted to a pile of pooh. There aren't any. So, we spend the next however many years pretending that a defense that never gave up more than 25 points in a game or an offensive line that is a lot better than say Arizona's, is the problem while Vinny Cerrato continues to assure us that THIS will be the week that Kelly and Thomas breakout. I've seen this movie before.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Ha, ha, you are funny!!

Sorry man, couldn't help it.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by The Goat

JLC said some retarded stuff here IMO. We need to add 2 or 3 LBs? Really? What the hell are we doing switching to a 3-4 defense before the season starts. We need one playmaker at OLB to ensure 1) Taylor play's at his pro-bowl position RDE 2) if there is an injury to one of the starters we have a guy to come in and play like a starter i.e. Blades. JLC is just making stuff up here...

Actually that was Jason Reid reporting. I do hope they go offensive line with the #13, preferably a tackle.

With all the b!tching about the defensive acquisitions, I don't know why anyone would suggest that we pick up a defensive player with our first pick (Goat, this has nothing to do with your comment btw).

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by The Goat

JLC said some retarded stuff here IMO. We need to add 2 or 3 LBs? Really? What the hell are we doing switching to a 3-4 defense before the season starts. We need one playmaker at OLB to ensure 1) Taylor play's at his pro-bowl position RDE 2) if there is an injury to one of the starters we have a guy to come in and play like a starter i.e. Blades. JLC is just making stuff up here...

I think they need two linebackers. I don't think Rocky can be counted on as a fulltime linebacker. He has broken down or declined at the end of the year when given a full workload. I think they should platoon Rocky with another linebacker and try and have him healthy at the end of the year. He has been a stud at the beginning of the season and then is either on the shelf or benched.

I like the idea of working J Taylor as the SAM here and there but I do not think he should be a linebacker full time. Jason Taylor is a defensive end. We brought him here to be a disruptive force as an end. I like his versatility but if they make him the full time strong side LB they are wasting his talents.

I would say that ideally Blades is your first LB off the bench, not a full time starter. He is good but certainly not in the league of a healthy Rocky or Marcus Washington.

Now with Phat Albert eating up blockers 2 or 3 at a time, maybe we are fine but I would not be upset at all if we take 2 or 3 LBs in the draft.

[Dirtbag59]

Andre Smith is clearly the best option if he's there at 13. In my opinion he's going to be an elite RT (80) and an above average (75 on Scouts Inc scale) LT. Plus if we can get Smith our X and short situations are going to get a hell of a lot easier with him and Dockery. Plus lets not forget Sellers coming out of the backfield.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Andre Smith is clearly the best option if he's there at 13. In my opinion he's going to be an elite RT (80) and an above average (75 on Scouts Inc scale) LT.

As of now he's a risk, unless he can change his way till draft day.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

As of now he's a risk, unless he can change his way till draft day.

It's well worth it. Smith is one of those guys thats still good even when he doesn't try. However keep in mind this is where having to radioactively date our aging O-line becomes an advantage.

I have little doubt that the guys will push Smith to be his best, keep in mind a lot of them (especially Thomas and Samuals) seem to have that mentor mindset in that they don't mind taking players under their wings. Hell even Thomas said last year before the draft that we needed to add depth on the O-line, even if it meant drafting his replacement.

In my opinion there are some places were certain positions are destined to succed and O-line is that kind of position for the Redskins. Especailly with Buges as the coach.

[The Goat]

Isn't this old news anyway? I think i heard this right after the major coaches/FO meetings (the same time we heard Marcus would not be returning). Jansen will make a very good back-up IMO and wouldn't be surprised to see him compete on the interior, depending on Thomas' status, but regardless he's a goner next year as we'll save about 2.4 mill upon cutting him.

[rypper11]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Jansen will make a very good back-up IMO and wouldn't be surprised to see him compete on the interior, depending on Thomas' status.

I've been preaching this for awhile now. Jansen's diminished quickness hurts him against end rushers and OLB blitzing, but he's still good in the running game. A switch to guard would not only extend his career but I actually think he would be an upgrade to Thomas.

[FRPLG]

Sweet Jesus!

Runyan IS Jansen. Why the hell would we replace an aging and ineffective past top RT with another? That is the silliest thing I have heard.

[Nflnick11]

Why don't we restructure Jansens contract, and then cut him...or trade him along with Golston and betts to Detroit for their 2nd round pick

And just watch Andre smith he is better than most of our olineman right now; I don't care if he ran away from the combine or got suspended for dealing with an agent, the guy can play and start immediatly for us and be great for years to come, if he is still at 13 it's a no brainer that we'll draft him...if he's not there then we'll trade down

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Nflnick11

Why don't we restructure Jansens contract, and then cut him...or trade him along with Golston and betts to Detroit for their 2nd round pick

And just watch Andre smith he is better than most of our olineman right now; I don't care if he ran away from the combine or got suspended for dealing with an agent, the guy can play and start immediatly for us and be great for years to come, if he is still at 13 it's a no brainer that we'll draft him...if he's not there then we'll trade down

Andre Smith was a Combine flop because, in his words, he was "not in shape."

As a prospective NFL player, it is his job to be in shape! Would you go to a doctor who said he couldn't be bothered to keep up with medical advances? Would you go to a lawyer who said he didn't care about bar certification? Geez, Andre Smith would have been better off showing up at the Combine in a t-shirt which said "BUST" in block letters.

His talent doesn't matter - JUST SAY NO to Andre Smith.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Andre Smith was a Combine flop because, in his words, he was "not in shape."

As a prospective NFL player, it is his job to be in shape! Would you go to a doctor who said he couldn't be bothered to keep up with medical advances? Would you go to a lawyer who said he didn't care about bar certification? Geez, Andre Smith would have been better off showing up at the Combine in a t-shirt which said "BUST" in block letters.

His talent doesn't matter - JUST SAY NO to Andre Smith.

Didn't Thomas and Kelly come into camp out of shape?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

Didn't Thomas and Kelly come into camp out of shape?

Thomas was not so out of shape that he couldn't show up at the Combine. Malcolm Kelly had a bum knee as a Combine excuse. Besides, what kind of year did they have?

Andre Smith likely cost himself millions of dollars simply because he couldn't be bothered to hit the gym. Woe to the team which gets that head case.