What Michael Vick won't be

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

...They took a man who committed bad crimes and projected him in an even worse light. Vick was a criminal, but he is also a little bit of a victim when you look at how so many people have tried to go out of their way to keep him from doing what he loves.

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Sorry, but there are thousands, or 10s of thousands (or more) of people who committed a crime, and now are "kept from doing what they love". Many rehabilitated criminals live without the right to vote. None, or very few, will ever hold a job requiring a security clearance of any type - even if their very livelihood had depended on it. I definitely believe in second chances, and the fact that a man may screw up, but still deserves to be allowed to move forward. But your saying that Vick is being victimized, in ANY degree, is ridiculous. This man was bankrupt, jailed, and still has had the opportunities to come back and be on the top of his profession. As JR said, he is in no way, shape or form a victim.

any way. last words rarely are.

[MTK]

Let's be clear about another thing, Vick is not the MVP of the league. That's Tom Brady, again.

[SolidSnake84]

I didnt defend Vick no matter what he did. But i am willing to let the past be the past, and move on. For some reason people are having a hard time doing that. Back when i was on Extreme Skins a few years ago, i villified Vick, but i never fell into the "lifetime ban" crowd that formed right before Vick's release. I wish we could all just move on from Vick's prison sentence, and all the people who were against his comeback...It's over with, we need to live in the now.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I didnt defend Vick no matter what he did. But i am willing to let the past be the past, and move on. For some reason people are having a hard time doing that. Back when i was on Extreme Skins a few years ago, i villified Vick, but i never fell into the "lifetime ban" crowd that formed right before Vick's release. I wish we could all just move on from Vick's prison sentence, and all the people who were against his comeback...It's over with, we need to live in the now.

Your opinion is just that......of which there are obviously many on the issue. NO more correct than any other.....opinion on the issue. MV generates much emotion for many and trying to convert everybody to...your opinion is.....a waste.
Move on Grasshopper, move on.........

And that's my LAST words on the issue.....maybe

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Your opinion is just that......of which there are obviously many on the issue. NO more correct than any other.....opinion on the issue. MV generates much emotion for many and trying to convert everybody to...your opinion is.....a waste.
Move on Grasshopper, move on.........

And that's my LAST words on the issue.....maybe

JoeRedskin endorses this statement - and its disclaimer.

[MTK]

No hate for Vick here either. No sympathy for him either.

In fact I really don't care either way, not sure why we're devoting so much time to the guy.

[Hog1]

Vick getting a dog makes as much sense as a Child molester getting a child?

[44ever]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Vick getting a dog makes as much sense as a Child molester getting a child?

The same argument could be made for guys who race dogs for a living. But it's not.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by 44ever

The same argument could be made for guys who race dogs for a living. But it's not.

Not sure of your meaning?
Dog racers:
a) Torture and kill dogs?
b) Molest children?

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Not sure of your meaning?
Dog racers:
a) Torture and kill dogs?
b) Molest children?

Invoking your prior disclaimer awfully fast there Hog. Ever thought of entering the legal field?

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Invoking your prior disclaimer awfully fast there Hog. Ever thought of entering the legal field?

NO Comment...

[44ever]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Not sure of your meaning?
Dog racers:
a) Torture and kill dogs?
b) Molest children?

Basically the outcome of the dog after about 2 years of racing will be destroyed. Some are juiced to the point of insanity. They have Greyhound adoption agencies but how many people do you know who own Greyhounds? A few maybe. There are thousands destroyed every year.

Yet Greyhound owners are obviously allowed to own dogs. Oh yeah, most owners don't personally destroy the dog. They pay someone else to do that for them. But some do.

Have you been to the Naples Fort Myers Greyhound track? Not a dog over 4 years old racing there.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Basically the outcome of the dog after about 2 years of racing will be destroyed. Some are juiced to the point of insanity. They have Greyhound adoption agencies but how many people do you know who own Greyhounds? A few maybe. There are thousands destroyed every year.

Yet Greyhound owners are obviously allowed to own dogs. Oh yeah, most owners don't personally destroy the dog. They pay someone else to do that for them. But some do.

Have you been to the Naples Fort Myers Greyhound track? Not a dog over 4 years old racing there.

No, for the reasons you state. I wanted to adopt a GH a few years ago. Doesn't work with a cat. GREAT DOGS!
I think it is a disgrace that the humane treatment of animals in this country carries so little weight...not my call.
HOWEVER, to my knowledge, the racers conform to the law(as bad as it is)?
MV....broke many?

[JoeRedskin]

^^ Did I say that??? Naw... I may have thought it, but I am sure I never said it. (Joking SS84, just joking).

[CultBrennan59]

Wasn't sure if any of you watch 1000 ways to die

The episode last night was about a burgalar who stole pitbulls, his name was Vick. The pitbull that he tried to steal which killed him was Michael... Clever show.