Bill Musgrave's Impact

dblanch66 · 12-29-2005, 02:10 PM

I don't remember this being discussed here before but Bill Musgrave should get a ton of credit for turning around Brunell's career...again...and also with Patrick Ramsey's development. This guy was an unheralded signing this past offseason and I think he is quietly doing an outstanding job. One of Joe Gibbs' strengths has always been putting good people in key coaching positions.
I can't think of any other reason Brunell has been so much different this year. He said he wasn't hurt last year. Why would he lie?

EXoffender · 12-29-2005, 02:12 PM

And convincing Gibbs to use the shotgun.

12thMan · 12-29-2005, 02:14 PM

Interesting comment about Musgrave. I think, indirectly, Santana Moss has been a big benefactor of Musgrave being on the staff.

What I mean by this is, I think Musgrave more than any other coordinator has helped Gibbs tweek his schemes a little here and there.

hurrykaine · 12-29-2005, 02:15 PM

I think Musgrave should be a strong candidate for Offensive Coord. when Gibbs leaves. Hell, they ought to think about demoting Breaux and Burns to consultants and make Musgrave Offensive Coord. next season...or at least give him a title that sounds more important..how about "deputy assistant head coach" or some such gibberish.

12thMan · 12-29-2005, 02:19 PM

I wonder what type of head coach candidate Musgrave would be in, let's two or three years?? Provided that GW ends up elswhere.

EXoffender · 12-29-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hurrykaine

I think Musgrave should be a strong candidate for Offensive Coord. when Gibbs leaves. Hell, they ought to think about demoting Breaux and Burns to consultants and make Musgrave Offensive Coord. next season...or at least give him a title that sounds more important..how about "deputy assistant head coach" or some such gibberish.

Whoever Gregg Williams like is cool with me. Anyone notice how many ex-skins coaches are with Marvin Lewis in CIN? That's why it scares me of talks that Williams will leave at seasons' end.

EXoffender · 12-29-2005, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I wonder what type of head coach candidate Musgrave would be in, let's two or three years?? Provided that GW ends up elswhere.

None whatsoever. West coast offenses compliment strong defensive play though.

skinsguy · 12-29-2005, 02:27 PM

My hats off to Musgrave...he's made a bigger impression on the offense and the quarterbacks than what I gave him credit for in the beginning.

davy · 12-29-2005, 02:41 PM

Unless you guys have inside knowledge this is all supposition. I haven't heard or read anything that would indicate Musgrave has had a big influence on anything.

dmek25 · 12-29-2005, 02:45 PM

i was talking about this the other day.what exactly is musgraves job title?is it quarterbacks coach.if so,what is he responsible for?

cpayne5 · 12-29-2005, 02:45 PM

I don't really know how much of a presence Musgrave has had in this offensive turnaround. All he is (officially) is an offensive assitant slash qb coach. What kind of things has he done, specifically, that Ernest Byner, Jack Burns, Don Breaux, & Rennie Simmons have not?

FRPLG · 12-29-2005, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cpayne5

I don't really know how much of a presence Musgrave has had in this offensive turnaround. All he is (officially) is an offensive assitant slash qb coach. What kind of things has he done, specifically, that Ernest Byner, Jack Burns, Don Breaux, & Rennie Simmons have not?

Well he is the only change to the staff from last year so I guess it is human nature to see that as something that changed the offense's fortunes. I would guess he may have had some to do with it but lets not get carried away and annoit this guy a head coaching candiate yet. He failed miserably in Jacksonville as OC so he needs a little more success before we go that far I would say.

One change that took place this year (I believe) is that Burns took over the majority of the play calling and as the season has progressed I'd say it ahs gotten better and better. Anyone know what the play calling structure was last year versus this year?

hurrykaine · 12-29-2005, 02:55 PM

I remember reading that Burns and Breaux sit in the box up top and relay prospective playcalls, but Gibbs has final say. That article (from the WP early this season) also hinted that while Burns has been less involved in playcalling this year, he continues to provide input.

gibbs4life · 12-29-2005, 03:01 PM

quarterback coach is his title description.
he must of helped with a few ideas but i truly think joe gibbs has that knack to put the right people in the right spots and lets them do what they do best.

MTK · 12-29-2005, 03:05 PM

I think Musgrave has had an influence on bringing some west coast flavor to the offense, but how much of an impact is debateable.

12-29-2005, 02:10 PM	#1
dblanch66 The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 58 Posts: 1,176	Bill Musgrave's Impact I don't remember this being discussed here before but Bill Musgrave should get a ton of credit for turning around Brunell's career...again...and also with Patrick Ramsey's development. This guy was an unheralded signing this past offseason and I think he is quietly doing an outstanding job. One of Joe Gibbs' strengths has always been putting good people in key coaching positions. I can't think of any other reason Brunell has been so much different this year. He said he wasn't hurt last year. Why would he lie?

12-29-2005, 02:12 PM	#2
EXoffender The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 1,046	Re: Bill Musgrave's Impact And convincing Gibbs to use the shotgun.

12-29-2005, 02:14 PM	#3
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Bill Musgrave's Impact Interesting comment about Musgrave. I think, indirectly, Santana Moss has been a big benefactor of Musgrave being on the staff. What I mean by this is, I think Musgrave more than any other coordinator has helped Gibbs tweek his schemes a little here and there.

12-29-2005, 02:15 PM	#4
hurrykaine Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Age: 51 Posts: 762	Re: Bill Musgrave's Impact I think Musgrave should be a strong candidate for Offensive Coord. when Gibbs leaves. Hell, they ought to think about demoting Breaux and Burns to consultants and make Musgrave Offensive Coord. next season...or at least give him a title that sounds more important..how about "deputy assistant head coach" or some such gibberish.

12-29-2005, 02:19 PM	#5
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Bill Musgrave's Impact I wonder what type of head coach candidate Musgrave would be in, let's two or three years?? Provided that GW ends up elswhere.

12-29-2005, 02:27 PM	#8
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Bill Musgrave's Impact My hats off to Musgrave...he's made a bigger impression on the offense and the quarterbacks than what I gave him credit for in the beginning. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

12-29-2005, 02:41 PM	#9
davy Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Location: England Posts: 935	Re: Bill Musgrave's Impact Unless you guys have inside knowledge this is all supposition. I haven't heard or read anything that would indicate Musgrave has had a big influence on anything.

12-29-2005, 02:45 PM	#10
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Bill Musgrave's Impact i was talking about this the other day.what exactly is musgraves job title?is it quarterbacks coach.if so,what is he responsible for?

12-29-2005, 02:45 PM	#11
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	Re: Bill Musgrave's Impact I don't really know how much of a presence Musgrave has had in this offensive turnaround. All he is (officially) is an offensive assitant slash qb coach. What kind of things has he done, specifically, that Ernest Byner, Jack Burns, Don Breaux, & Rennie Simmons have not? __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

12-29-2005, 02:55 PM	#13
hurrykaine Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Age: 51 Posts: 762	Re: Bill Musgrave's Impact I remember reading that Burns and Breaux sit in the box up top and relay prospective playcalls, but Gibbs has final say. That article (from the WP early this season) also hinted that while Burns has been less involved in playcalling this year, he continues to provide input.

12-29-2005, 03:01 PM	#14
gibbs4life Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: chocowinity nc Age: 55 Posts: 282	Re: Bill Musgrave's Impact quarterback coach is his title description. he must of helped with a few ideas but i truly think joe gibbs has that knack to put the right people in the right spots and lets them do what they do best. __________________ with the sixth pick dan synder selects......daniel synder ...to find someone that will be a better fit for the front office..

12-29-2005, 03:05 PM	#15
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: Bill Musgrave's Impact I think Musgrave has had an influence on bringing some west coast flavor to the offense, but how much of an impact is debateable. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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