Respect-BEAST OF THE EAST?

BigSKINBauer · 12-25-2005, 01:50 AM

Well i am sure that we are gonna get tons of respect this week in terms of power rankings and other outlets. I am not one to be really exited about respect but let this be the first of many.
http://sports.yahoo.com/
look at the poll... you know the one right next to the big portis picture and ofcourse the results. I like respect from the NFL fan base

mooby · 12-25-2005, 01:55 AM

i don't care how much respect we get from the media. We know how good we are, and we know that we can go far.

offiss · 12-25-2005, 02:01 AM

I said it after the cowboy game that I really believed we had finally turned the corner, it wasen't the final score that did it, it was how we did it.

Today only confirmed those thoughts, and yes I am perpared to say that right now we may be the best in the NFC, with either Brunell, or Ramsey.

I would like to see a WR step up and compliment Moss though.

Our D-line has been a real surprise these past couple of games.

Simply put we are on a big time roll, everything is coming together all at once, yes we can be a SB team!

Bozzy · 12-25-2005, 02:10 AM

It's great to be a on roll and roll into the playoffs. If we keep this up, we could knock out a few teams from the playoffs, heck, maybe even meet Seattle in the championship game, if Seattle makes it there.

hooskins · 12-25-2005, 02:12 AM

yahoo sports analysis is trash. Both Charles Robinson and Chris Carter picked the NYG to beat us at home, and they thought we were not that good. Now it seems Charles Robinson has jumped on the bandwagon, and we will see what Carter will do also.

BigSKINBauer · 12-25-2005, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooskins

yahoo sports analysis is trash. Both Charles Robinson and Chris Carter picked the NYG to beat us at home, and they thought we were not that good. Now it seems Charles Robinson has jumped on the bandwagon, and we will see what Carter will do also.

O a note to the individual analysts... this wagon is full

dmek25 · 12-25-2005, 08:35 AM

i live in eagle country and those poor pathetic fans still dont get it.my brother in law came over yesterday and started talking smack until i ask them when are the eagles ever going to win something?his reply was all the skins sb victorys are ancient history.then i ask him how the eagles are doing this year.he continued on about the injuries until i said about spending some of the trillion dollars the eagle have under the cap to aquire some depth,and he continued to try an argue with me.i come to facts that the eagle fans dont get it,and never will

Daseal · 12-25-2005, 11:01 AM

The Redskins got hot and started playing on all cylinders just at the right time. I love seeing a team win and Im so pumped for the playoffs. If we get in, we can beat ANY nfc team on our plate. Hopefully the guys, especially ones who have been here a while, have the drive necessary!

skinsttw · 12-25-2005, 11:11 AM

Here is the Yahoo Sport article on the skins by Robinson:
Return of the Redskins
By Charles Robinson, Yahoo! Sports
December 24, 2005

Charles Robinson
Yahoo! Sports Exclusive
LANDOVER, Md. – If you could have been there in the first quarter Saturday, standing shoulder to shoulder with Santana Moss, then maybe you could have seen a nice little summary of what these Washington Redskins have done in the last month.

Lined up across from New York Giants cornerback Will Allen with just over two minutes left in the quarter, Moss watched free safety Brent Alexander begin to cheat away from his side of the field. He looked at Allen and saw one thing – single coverage.

"I was like, 'Oh man, this is like stealing from a baby,' " Moss said. "When I saw it happen, my eyes got big."

Freeze that moment and you have the essence of the last four weeks for the Redskins. Snake back through the beginning of December and you'll find a common thread: Each week this month brought a win, and each was pulled together by the same kind of moments Moss encountered Saturday night – the stuff made of big eyes and big opportunities.

So maybe it was no surprise to see what Moss did to Allen on that first-quarter play – streaking downfield, getting Allen to bite on a head fake and then slamming on the brakes as Allen flew by. Then, in one complete motion as Allen's momentum carried him away from the play, Moss adjusted to a Mark Brunell bomb, turning over his opposite shoulder and catching what would become a 59-yard touchdown and a 14-10 lead. It would be the second of three dazzling Moss touchdowns in a pivotal 35-20 win for the Redskins, who now find themselves in solid playoff position and with an outside shot at the NFC East title.

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"I've got to tell you, if there's anybody with better long-ball reaction than that guy. … He turned around and snatched that thing from I don't know where," Redskins coach Joe Gibbs said of Moss. "His long-ball reaction is just phenomenal."

The victory included a slight thundercloud, with the loss of Brunell early in the second half to a sprained MCL. He's expected to be evaluated again later in the week – a reality that cast a slight damper on Washington's big victory.

Even with Brunell's injury, it was hard not to be impressed by Moss and a Redskins team that had been pounded by the Giants 36-0 at the Meadowlands on Oct. 30. That earlier loss to New York broke a string of three consecutive 100-yard games by Moss and began a significant cooling-off period for what had been one of the NFL's hottest wideouts heading into late October.

The Giants held Moss to 34 yards in that defeat, which Gibbs billed as "the first time I felt like in two years that we kind of got manhandled by somebody."

The Redskins lost defensive tackle Cornelius Griffin to injury in that game, and the team really never seemed the same in the month of November. Nor did Moss, who went into Saturday with a string of eight games without a 100-yard receiving performance – a span in which he also caught only one touchdown pass. That played a large part in Washington's stumble to a 5-6 record by the end of November, a slide that would leave the Redskins gasping for their playoff lives.

But something began to change for Washington during that slide. While Moss and the team's playoff hopes began to flicker, the Redskins began to shift more of the offensive load to running back Clinton Portis. He had a season-high 29 carries in a narrow loss to San Diego on Nov. 27, followed by arguably his best game of the season – a 136-yard, two-touchdown effort in a 24-9 win over St. Louis.

Quietly, the man who was better known for his time in Denver's backfield started carving out Pro Bowl numbers again – 76 carries for 353 yards and a trio of touchdowns in Washington's three December wins leading into Saturday night. That offensive balance complicated matters for the Giants, who, in their October win, forced the Redskins into passing mode and never had to account for Portis.

"The key," Moss said, "has been Clinton having the games he's been having week after week. You've got to respect the run. When they give up that single coverage – give up that coverage where I've got one guy on me – we call the (deep) plays at the right time."

"You pick your poison," Portis said. "You either give up the deep ball to Santana and let Santana and (H-back) Chris Cooley kill you, or you can let me grind it out for 10, 15 yards."

The Giants never quite figured that out Saturday, giving up a combined 278 yards from scrimmage and four touchdowns to Moss and Portis. Washington's offensive versatility was punctuated in the second quarter when Gibbs ran a toss sweep to Portis with a run or pass option. Portis chose the pass, hitting Cooley with a perfect 17-yard touchdown spiral for a 21-10 lead.

"It's confidence, swagger – the coaches believe in it," said Portis, expounding on an offense that has put up 35 points in back-to-back games against the Giants and Dallas Cowboys. "Coach Gibbs, early in the season, would have never called that halfback pass that early, in that crucial situation. Coach Gibbs has been relaxed and trusted us."

That trust has translated into a power shift, where the Giants continue to look as shaky as every other NFC power not located in Seattle. Surely, New York has to question its composure. The Giants still had opportunities to stay in the game late, but continually hurt themselves with miscues. Among the most alarming, wide receiver Plaxico Burress dropped a touchdown on the first play of the game, then had another pivotal pass bounce off his fingers and into the arms of Amani Toomer for a lucky touchdown late in the first half.

But the problems weren't limited to Burress. Kicker Jay Feeley had a field-goal attempt blocked, and tight end Jeremy Shockey stopped to complain about pass interference in the second quarter – at the same time Redskins linebacker Lemar Marshall was intercepting an Eli Manning pass and returning it for prime field position. But neither of those mistakes was as costly as a fourth-quarter holding penalty by guard Chris Snee, whose miscue nullified a 36-yard touchdown catch by Toomer – which would have pulled the Giants to within 35-27 with 6:25 left.

"This game was about momentum," Giants running back Tiki Barber lamented. "Washington has the momentum and a deep-seeded desire. They have a purpose. It showed in how they played today."

Surely, it's a momentum that has been building for the Redskins all month long. Written off as regular-season fodder at the end of November, Washington has remade its image into one that looks like yet another dangerous NFC playoff team. And in a conference that seems to have only one clearly elite team in the Seahawks, there's no telling what the Redskins can pull off from this point on.

"Guys are motivated," Gibbs said. "They are excited."

Considering how far this team has come in a month, it's not hard to see why.

Charles Robinson is the national NFL writer for Yahoo! Sports. Send him a question or comment for potential use in a future column or webcast.

12-25-2005, 01:50 AM	#1
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 36 Posts: 5,688	Respect-BEAST OF THE EAST? Well i am sure that we are gonna get tons of respect this week in terms of power rankings and other outlets. I am not one to be really exited about respect but let this be the first of many. http://sports.yahoo.com/ look at the poll... you know the one right next to the big portis picture and ofcourse the results. I like respect from the NFL fan base Last edited by BigSKINBauer; 12-25-2005 at 02:03 AM.

12-25-2005, 01:55 AM	#2
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,446	Re: Respect-BEAST OF THE EAST? i don't care how much respect we get from the media. We know how good we are, and we know that we can go far. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

12-25-2005, 02:01 AM	#3
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Re: Respect-BEAST OF THE EAST? I said it after the cowboy game that I really believed we had finally turned the corner, it wasen't the final score that did it, it was how we did it. Today only confirmed those thoughts, and yes I am perpared to say that right now we may be the best in the NFC, with either Brunell, or Ramsey. I would like to see a WR step up and compliment Moss though. Our D-line has been a real surprise these past couple of games. Simply put we are on a big time roll, everything is coming together all at once, yes we can be a SB team!

12-25-2005, 02:10 AM	#4
Bozzy The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 44 Posts: 1,034	Re: Respect-BEAST OF THE EAST? It's great to be a on roll and roll into the playoffs. If we keep this up, we could knock out a few teams from the playoffs, heck, maybe even meet Seattle in the championship game, if Seattle makes it there.

12-25-2005, 02:12 AM	#5
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Re: Respect-BEAST OF THE EAST? yahoo sports analysis is trash. Both Charles Robinson and Chris Carter picked the NYG to beat us at home, and they thought we were not that good. Now it seems Charles Robinson has jumped on the bandwagon, and we will see what Carter will do also. __________________ Vacancy

12-25-2005, 08:35 AM	#7
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Respect-BEAST OF THE EAST? i live in eagle country and those poor pathetic fans still dont get it.my brother in law came over yesterday and started talking smack until i ask them when are the eagles ever going to win something?his reply was all the skins sb victorys are ancient history.then i ask him how the eagles are doing this year.he continued on about the injuries until i said about spending some of the trillion dollars the eagle have under the cap to aquire some depth,and he continued to try an argue with me.i come to facts that the eagle fans dont get it,and never will

12-25-2005, 11:01 AM	#8
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Respect-BEAST OF THE EAST? The Redskins got hot and started playing on all cylinders just at the right time. I love seeing a team win and Im so pumped for the playoffs. If we get in, we can beat ANY nfc team on our plate. Hopefully the guys, especially ones who have been here a while, have the drive necessary! __________________ Best. Player. Available.

12-25-2005, 11:11 AM	#9
skinsttw Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 174	Re: Respect-BEAST OF THE EAST? Here is the Yahoo Sport article on the skins by Robinson: Return of the Redskins By Charles Robinson, Yahoo! Sports December 24, 2005 Charles Robinson Yahoo! Sports Exclusive LANDOVER, Md. – If you could have been there in the first quarter Saturday, standing shoulder to shoulder with Santana Moss, then maybe you could have seen a nice little summary of what these Washington Redskins have done in the last month. Lined up across from New York Giants cornerback Will Allen with just over two minutes left in the quarter, Moss watched free safety Brent Alexander begin to cheat away from his side of the field. He looked at Allen and saw one thing – single coverage. "I was like, 'Oh man, this is like stealing from a baby,' " Moss said. "When I saw it happen, my eyes got big." Freeze that moment and you have the essence of the last four weeks for the Redskins. Snake back through the beginning of December and you'll find a common thread: Each week this month brought a win, and each was pulled together by the same kind of moments Moss encountered Saturday night – the stuff made of big eyes and big opportunities. So maybe it was no surprise to see what Moss did to Allen on that first-quarter play – streaking downfield, getting Allen to bite on a head fake and then slamming on the brakes as Allen flew by. Then, in one complete motion as Allen's momentum carried him away from the play, Moss adjusted to a Mark Brunell bomb, turning over his opposite shoulder and catching what would become a 59-yard touchdown and a 14-10 lead. It would be the second of three dazzling Moss touchdowns in a pivotal 35-20 win for the Redskins, who now find themselves in solid playoff position and with an outside shot at the NFC East title. ADVERTISEMENT [-78161] "I've got to tell you, if there's anybody with better long-ball reaction than that guy. … He turned around and snatched that thing from I don't know where," Redskins coach Joe Gibbs said of Moss. "His long-ball reaction is just phenomenal." The victory included a slight thundercloud, with the loss of Brunell early in the second half to a sprained MCL. He's expected to be evaluated again later in the week – a reality that cast a slight damper on Washington's big victory. Even with Brunell's injury, it was hard not to be impressed by Moss and a Redskins team that had been pounded by the Giants 36-0 at the Meadowlands on Oct. 30. That earlier loss to New York broke a string of three consecutive 100-yard games by Moss and began a significant cooling-off period for what had been one of the NFL's hottest wideouts heading into late October. The Giants held Moss to 34 yards in that defeat, which Gibbs billed as "the first time I felt like in two years that we kind of got manhandled by somebody." The Redskins lost defensive tackle Cornelius Griffin to injury in that game, and the team really never seemed the same in the month of November. Nor did Moss, who went into Saturday with a string of eight games without a 100-yard receiving performance – a span in which he also caught only one touchdown pass. That played a large part in Washington's stumble to a 5-6 record by the end of November, a slide that would leave the Redskins gasping for their playoff lives. But something began to change for Washington during that slide. While Moss and the team's playoff hopes began to flicker, the Redskins began to shift more of the offensive load to running back Clinton Portis. He had a season-high 29 carries in a narrow loss to San Diego on Nov. 27, followed by arguably his best game of the season – a 136-yard, two-touchdown effort in a 24-9 win over St. Louis. Quietly, the man who was better known for his time in Denver's backfield started carving out Pro Bowl numbers again – 76 carries for 353 yards and a trio of touchdowns in Washington's three December wins leading into Saturday night. That offensive balance complicated matters for the Giants, who, in their October win, forced the Redskins into passing mode and never had to account for Portis. "The key," Moss said, "has been Clinton having the games he's been having week after week. You've got to respect the run. When they give up that single coverage – give up that coverage where I've got one guy on me – we call the (deep) plays at the right time." "You pick your poison," Portis said. "You either give up the deep ball to Santana and let Santana and (H-back) Chris Cooley kill you, or you can let me grind it out for 10, 15 yards." The Giants never quite figured that out Saturday, giving up a combined 278 yards from scrimmage and four touchdowns to Moss and Portis. Washington's offensive versatility was punctuated in the second quarter when Gibbs ran a toss sweep to Portis with a run or pass option. Portis chose the pass, hitting Cooley with a perfect 17-yard touchdown spiral for a 21-10 lead. "It's confidence, swagger – the coaches believe in it," said Portis, expounding on an offense that has put up 35 points in back-to-back games against the Giants and Dallas Cowboys. "Coach Gibbs, early in the season, would have never called that halfback pass that early, in that crucial situation. Coach Gibbs has been relaxed and trusted us." That trust has translated into a power shift, where the Giants continue to look as shaky as every other NFC power not located in Seattle. Surely, New York has to question its composure. The Giants still had opportunities to stay in the game late, but continually hurt themselves with miscues. Among the most alarming, wide receiver Plaxico Burress dropped a touchdown on the first play of the game, then had another pivotal pass bounce off his fingers and into the arms of Amani Toomer for a lucky touchdown late in the first half. But the problems weren't limited to Burress. Kicker Jay Feeley had a field-goal attempt blocked, and tight end Jeremy Shockey stopped to complain about pass interference in the second quarter – at the same time Redskins linebacker Lemar Marshall was intercepting an Eli Manning pass and returning it for prime field position. But neither of those mistakes was as costly as a fourth-quarter holding penalty by guard Chris Snee, whose miscue nullified a 36-yard touchdown catch by Toomer – which would have pulled the Giants to within 35-27 with 6:25 left. "This game was about momentum," Giants running back Tiki Barber lamented. "Washington has the momentum and a deep-seeded desire. They have a purpose. It showed in how they played today." Surely, it's a momentum that has been building for the Redskins all month long. Written off as regular-season fodder at the end of November, Washington has remade its image into one that looks like yet another dangerous NFC playoff team. And in a conference that seems to have only one clearly elite team in the Seahawks, there's no telling what the Redskins can pull off from this point on. "Guys are motivated," Gibbs said. "They are excited." Considering how far this team has come in a month, it's not hard to see why. Charles Robinson is the national NFL writer for Yahoo! Sports. Send him a question or comment for potential use in a future column or webcast. __________________ Go skins!

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