Manning's daddy to the rescue

skinsfanthru&thru · 04-22-2004, 04:08 AM

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what do u guys think about this? is it just me or is this pretty pathetic? i mean if you're coming out of college in the draft to play in the nfl and u r one of the more talented players in the league, u have to expect to be going to a team that more than likely isn't all that great which is why they get first dibs in the selection process. wouldn't this set a really bad precedent if the chargers bow down to the mannings' demands?

SKINSnCANES · 04-22-2004, 04:13 AM

well they dont want another Ryan Leaf who didnt want to play football for them... This was also his dads opinion, and not his. It would set a bad precendent.

huntz · 04-22-2004, 04:47 AM

This just reeks of another Elway scenario! Guess the ol' man doesn't want his boy to get his lumps like he did by playing with a bad team.

dieselhog · 04-22-2004, 06:54 AM

San Diego or Coughlin bustin' your balls or the vampire of oakland/la/oakland/la/oakland biting your neck..... mmmm

Gmanc711 · 04-22-2004, 08:04 AM

As a football fan, I would like him to go to New York. I think he has the best shot to be a bigtime, star qb there. HOWEVER, as a logical Redskins fan, I pray to god thats the last place he goes.

beg8878 · 04-22-2004, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Gmanc711

As a football fan, I would like him to go to New York. I think he has the best shot to be a bigtime, star qb there. HOWEVER, as a logical Redskins fan, I pray to god thats the last place he goes.

I don't know, I might rather see him there than Gallery pushing us around for the next 12 years....

At least Manning has a SHOT to be a bust. Everyone, and there mother's, are making Gallery to be the 2nd coming of the Great Wall of China.

Gmanc711 · 04-22-2004, 11:01 AM

Thats true, but its alot easier to plan a game around a great tackle than a great QB, ya know?

Carnage · 04-22-2004, 02:44 PM

I don't blame Papa Manning at all. He was drafted by the Aints, gave them the best years of his career, and was forced to finish that career with expansion teams like Houston and Atlanta. Peyton was drafted by the Colts, and there is doubt that they will ever be able to build a good team around him.
The Giants expect to go the playoffs every year. The pull of a Manning playing for a team with a tradition of winning must be irresitible to Archie.

SKINSnCANES · 04-22-2004, 03:08 PM

Im surprised Eli hasnt said anything about it. He would be smart to make a comment about how he will go out and compete 100% for whomever he plays for.

skinsfanthru&thru · 04-22-2004, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Carnage

I don't blame Papa Manning at all. He was drafted by the Aints, gave them the best years of his career, and was forced to finish that career with expansion teams like Houston and Atlanta. Peyton was drafted by the Colts, and there is doubt that they will ever be able to build a good team around him.
The Giants expect to go the playoffs every year. The pull of a Manning playing for a team with a tradition of winning must be irresitible to Archie.

the colts have turned out to be a pretty darn good team the past couple of years and peyton didn't have to sign a new long term contract to remain with them if he didn't think there was a future for the team. heck they'd have been in the superbowl last year if the new illegal contact ruling and closer watch on the pass interference had been in effect.

and it's not archie's career that he's trying to play though. i honestly think san diego has the chance to be a very solid team in a couple years especially with l. tomlinson (the best complete rb in the nfl today) being in the backfield. its a draft for a reason, bad teams need the best talent coming into the nfl. plus if he is having his daddy speaking for him, maybe it'd be kinda fun seeing his pansy self getting squashed twice a year in ny.

JoeRedskin · 04-22-2004, 03:26 PM

I guess I think it's Elway all over again and, quite frankly, I don't care. Each side has leverage and each side has risks to weigh.-

You don't want to play for us? Tough. If you want to play in this league you gotta follow the rules. One of those rules is, until your a UFA, you play for the team that drafts you. We will pay you millions of dollars to do so or, if you would rather, sit out the year and cost yourself millions.

You want to draft me? Fine, I ain't playing for you and I'll take my chances again next year even if it costs me a couple million in the short term. You will get NOTHING for THE most valuable spot in the draft. Work a trade or pass me by and get someone else, but, if you pick me, you get nothing.

Who has more to lose? Hard to say. There are short and long term considerations for both.

Carnage · 04-22-2004, 03:29 PM

The Colts also would have been in the Super Bowl if they could stop the run OR get to the quarterback OR defend against the pass. Without manning, this is a pretty bad team.

skinsfanthru&thru · 04-22-2004, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Carnage

The Colts also would have been in the Super Bowl if they could stop the run OR get to the quarterback OR defend against the pass. Without manning, this is a pretty bad team.

so u wouldn't want marvin harrison, edgerrin james, marcus pollard or dwight freeney?

saden1 · 04-22-2004, 03:52 PM

This is horse crap. If I were San Diego and I really needed a QB I'd draft his ass. If they pick a QB other than Manning it sets a really bad precedence for future drafts. What happened to the old days of wanting to get drafted #1 overall?

Carnage · 04-22-2004, 04:05 PM

Skinsfan, it would be stupid of me to say that the Colts did not have talent, which is why I did not say it. You bringing up Harrison and Freeney is not only unnecessary, (I had heard of them before) but besides the point. Are the Colts minus Manning a pretty darn good team?

04-22-2004, 04:13 AM	#2
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	well they dont want another Ryan Leaf who didnt want to play football for them... This was also his dads opinion, and not his. It would set a bad precendent. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

04-22-2004, 03:08 PM	#9
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	Im surprised Eli hasnt said anything about it. He would be smart to make a comment about how he will go out and compete 100% for whomever he plays for. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

04-22-2004, 03:52 PM	#14
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	This is horse crap. If I were San Diego and I really needed a QB I'd draft his ass. If they pick a QB other than Manning it sets a really bad precedence for future drafts. What happened to the old days of wanting to get drafted #1 overall? Last edited by saden1; 04-22-2004 at 07:17 PM.

04-22-2004, 04:08 AM	#1
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 44 Posts: 3,813	Manning's daddy to the rescue http://sports.espn.go.com/nfldraft/d...ory?id=1787271 what do u guys think about this? is it just me or is this pretty pathetic? i mean if you're coming out of college in the draft to play in the nfl and u r one of the more talented players in the league, u have to expect to be going to a team that more than likely isn't all that great which is why they get first dibs in the selection process. wouldn't this set a really bad precedent if the chargers bow down to the mannings' demands?

04-22-2004, 04:47 AM	#3
huntz Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 67 Posts: 311	This just reeks of another Elway scenario! Guess the ol' man doesn't want his boy to get his lumps like he did by playing with a bad team.

04-22-2004, 06:54 AM	#4
dieselhog Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bolton, Lancashire Age: 53 Posts: 166	San Diego or Coughlin bustin' your balls or the vampire of oakland/la/oakland/la/oakland biting your neck..... mmmm

04-22-2004, 08:04 AM	#5
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	As a football fan, I would like him to go to New York. I think he has the best shot to be a bigtime, star qb there. HOWEVER, as a logical Redskins fan, I pray to god thats the last place he goes.

04-22-2004, 11:01 AM	#7
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Thats true, but its alot easier to plan a game around a great tackle than a great QB, ya know?

04-22-2004, 02:44 PM	#8
Carnage Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 473	I don't blame Papa Manning at all. He was drafted by the Aints, gave them the best years of his career, and was forced to finish that career with expansion teams like Houston and Atlanta. Peyton was drafted by the Colts, and there is doubt that they will ever be able to build a good team around him. The Giants expect to go the playoffs every year. The pull of a Manning playing for a team with a tradition of winning must be irresitible to Archie.

04-22-2004, 03:26 PM	#11
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 61 Posts: 10,401	I guess I think it's Elway all over again and, quite frankly, I don't care. Each side has leverage and each side has risks to weigh.- You don't want to play for us? Tough. If you want to play in this league you gotta follow the rules. One of those rules is, until your a UFA, you play for the team that drafts you. We will pay you millions of dollars to do so or, if you would rather, sit out the year and cost yourself millions. You want to draft me? Fine, I ain't playing for you and I'll take my chances again next year even if it costs me a couple million in the short term. You will get NOTHING for THE most valuable spot in the draft. Work a trade or pass me by and get someone else, but, if you pick me, you get nothing. Who has more to lose? Hard to say. There are short and long term considerations for both.

04-22-2004, 03:29 PM	#12
Carnage Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 473	The Colts also would have been in the Super Bowl if they could stop the run OR get to the quarterback OR defend against the pass. Without manning, this is a pretty bad team.

04-22-2004, 04:05 PM	#15
Carnage Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 473	Skinsfan, it would be stupid of me to say that the Colts did not have talent, which is why I did not say it. You bringing up Harrison and Freeney is not only unnecessary, (I had heard of them before) but besides the point. Are the Colts minus Manning a pretty darn good team?

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