Redskins' Strength of Schedule: We Are A Decent Team

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 12-05-2005, 08:47 PM

Sally Jenkins' recent boneheaded article got me thinking, "What is our strength of schedule?" It turns out that our opponents combined records thus far is 82-60. Pretty tough. Plus, we have faced 4 of the league's 8 division leaders (Chicago, Seattle, Denver, and the Giants) and split such games (beating Chicago and Seattle and losing to Denver and the Giants).

We are beating and losing to some pretty darn good teams. The only team that beat us that shouldn't have beaten us is Oakland. Oakland aside, the combined record of the teams that beat us is a whopping 41-19. Moreover, with the notable exception of the Giants game, those losses have been decided by the last play of the game.

In short, we are at worst an average team and at best, an above average team that has faced, and lost to, some damn fine opponents.

Gmanc711 · 12-05-2005, 09:00 PM

I say...we are what we are, a 6-6 ball club. If we had lost those games more convisingly (that we were actually a worse team), then I would say we fell victim to our record. Outside of the Cheifs and Giants games, we pretty much outplayed all our opponents but couldnt finish the job. Therefore, I think we are what we are.

Warpath · 12-05-2005, 09:06 PM

I agree with Gmac If if werent for turnovers and penalties we would have a better record. Those reasons being Nobodys fault but theirs they are what they are. (sorry I voted the other way tho)

FRPLG · 12-05-2005, 09:18 PM

According to NFL.com we have a .577 strength of schedule which is good for the second hardest in the NFL this year(Poor Houston has a .601). Our strength of victory is good for 3rd. So we have officially played a pretty hard schedule this year. The good news is that of the remaining NFC teams in the hunt we have the easiest strength of schedule prior to this weekend, All this adds up to diddly poo as Jim Mora Sr, would say. Just win our next four and we're almost guranteed to be in.

JWsleep · 12-05-2005, 09:27 PM

Actually, part of what makes our strength of schedule hard is that WE lost games, making our opponents record stronger, at least as you look back over the season (not sure if that's clear--sorry!).

Anyway, wins talk, everything else walks--we're 6-6 because we have a bad TO ratio, couldn't hold some late leads, and have trouble on 3rd-and-short at crucial moments. No one to blame but our selves--if we take care of our own house, our record will improve.

(I'm not saying anyone disagrees with that, just that it's hard for me to see much in this strength of schedule thing.)

Sammy Baugh Fan · 12-05-2005, 09:49 PM

We're a better team than the record but not by a ton.

onlydarksets · 12-05-2005, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JWsleep

Actually, part of what makes our strength of schedule hard is that WE lost games, making our opponents record stronger, at least as you look back over the season (not sure if that's clear--sorry!).

That's a good point - I wonder how it works out when you subtract your own losses from your opponents' wins?

Paintrain · 12-05-2005, 10:19 PM

We are what we are, an average team. Good teams don't beat themselves and don't let themselves be put in position to lose close games due to referee errors, coaching decisions and fate.

onlydarksets · 12-05-2005, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

We are what we are, an average team. Good teams don't beat themselves and don't let themselves be put in position to lose close games due to referee errors, coaching decisions and fate.

I agree - all but three of our games have been close, and we have won some and lost some. We could easily have won more, but we didn't. We could easily have lost more, but we didn't. 6-6 sounds about right.

GoSkins! · 12-05-2005, 11:07 PM

We have won almost as many close games as we have lost, but here are my thoughts.

We are better than our record simply because Alstott did not get in. We won.
We are better on offense than we were last year.
We have had one hell of a tough schedule and are still alive to make the playoffs.

If we go 9-7, I would be happy. We need another receiver and a couple of d-linemen to be dominant.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 12-05-2005, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWsleep

Actually, part of what makes our strength of schedule hard is that WE lost games, making our opponents record stronger, at least as you look back over the season (not sure if that's clear--sorry!).

Anyway, wins talk, everything else walks--we're 6-6 because we have a bad TO ratio, couldn't hold some late leads, and have trouble on 3rd-and-short at crucial moments. No one to blame but our selves--if we take care of our own house, our record will improve.

(I'm not saying anyone disagrees with that, just that it's hard for me to see much in this strength of schedule thing.)

We lost as many games as we won, so it's a push when it comes to our opponents' strength of schedule.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 12-05-2005, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

According to NFL.com we have a .577 strength of schedule which is good for the second hardest in the NFL this year(Poor Houston has a .601). Our strength of victory is good for 3rd. So we have officially played a pretty hard schedule this year. The good news is that of the remaining NFC teams in the hunt we have the easiest strength of schedule prior to this weekend, All this adds up to diddly poo as Jim Mora Sr, would say. Just win our next four and we're almost guranteed to be in.

It's always nice to see people use facts in support of their arguments.

dmek25 · 12-06-2005, 07:58 AM

if we are a better team than our record indicates,than running the table is not out of the question.im not sold on eli manning and the giants.but i am impressed with their defense.i think plaxico is big time over rated

MTK · 12-06-2005, 09:22 AM

We've definitely had a killer schedule and went toe to toe with some of the best teams in the league.

If we could have only come out of the AFC West games with a split we'd be in great position for the playoffs right now.

There's no doubt this team has lost some tough games, but in the end they only have themselves to blame. Good teams don't beat themselves with penalties and turnovers week after week.

Paintrain · 12-06-2005, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

We've definitely had a killer schedule and went toe to toe with some of the best teams in the league.

If we could have only come out of the AFC West games with a split we'd be in great position for the playoffs right now.

There's no doubt this team has lost some tough games, but in the end they only have themselves to blame. Good teams don't beat themselves with penalties and turnovers week after week.

Article in the Wash. Times today points out that with a win in one more game (7-5) we'd be in position for the final playoff spot in the NFC. I like our schedule down the stretch rather than some of the other team's schedules. We own all tiebreakers so 9-7 may get us in if we can win 3-1. The only loss that won't hurt us too badly is the Giants loss but we need to sweep the Cowboys and beat the Eagles to ensure the best conference record.

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12-05-2005, 08:47 PM	#1
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Redskins' Strength of Schedule: We Are A Decent Team Sally Jenkins' recent boneheaded article got me thinking, "What is our strength of schedule?" It turns out that our opponents combined records thus far is 82-60. Pretty tough. Plus, we have faced 4 of the league's 8 division leaders (Chicago, Seattle, Denver, and the Giants) and split such games (beating Chicago and Seattle and losing to Denver and the Giants). We are beating and losing to some pretty darn good teams. The only team that beat us that shouldn't have beaten us is Oakland. Oakland aside, the combined record of the teams that beat us is a whopping 41-19. Moreover, with the notable exception of the Giants game, those losses have been decided by the last play of the game. In short, we are at worst an average team and at best, an above average team that has faced, and lost to, some damn fine opponents.

12-05-2005, 09:00 PM	#2
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Re: Redskins' Strength of Schedule: We Are A Decent Team I say...we are what we are, a 6-6 ball club. If we had lost those games more convisingly (that we were actually a worse team), then I would say we fell victim to our record. Outside of the Cheifs and Giants games, we pretty much outplayed all our opponents but couldnt finish the job. Therefore, I think we are what we are. __________________ #21

12-05-2005, 09:06 PM	#3
Warpath The Starter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Potomac Falls, VA Age: 48 Posts: 1,762	Re: Redskins' Strength of Schedule: We Are A Decent Team I agree with Gmac If if werent for turnovers and penalties we would have a better record. Those reasons being Nobodys fault but theirs they are what they are. (sorry I voted the other way tho)

12-05-2005, 09:18 PM	#4
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Redskins' Strength of Schedule: We Are A Decent Team According to NFL.com we have a .577 strength of schedule which is good for the second hardest in the NFL this year(Poor Houston has a .601). Our strength of victory is good for 3rd. So we have officially played a pretty hard schedule this year. The good news is that of the remaining NFC teams in the hunt we have the easiest strength of schedule prior to this weekend, All this adds up to diddly poo as Jim Mora Sr, would say. Just win our next four and we're almost guranteed to be in.

12-05-2005, 09:27 PM	#5
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,714	Re: Redskins' Strength of Schedule: We Are A Decent Team Actually, part of what makes our strength of schedule hard is that WE lost games, making our opponents record stronger, at least as you look back over the season (not sure if that's clear--sorry!). Anyway, wins talk, everything else walks--we're 6-6 because we have a bad TO ratio, couldn't hold some late leads, and have trouble on 3rd-and-short at crucial moments. No one to blame but our selves--if we take care of our own house, our record will improve. (I'm not saying anyone disagrees with that, just that it's hard for me to see much in this strength of schedule thing.) __________________ Hail from Houston!

12-05-2005, 09:49 PM	#6
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12-05-2005, 10:19 PM	#8
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 54 Posts: 5,006	Re: Redskins' Strength of Schedule: We Are A Decent Team We are what we are, an average team. Good teams don't beat themselves and don't let themselves be put in position to lose close games due to referee errors, coaching decisions and fate. __________________ Paintrain's Redskins Fandom 1981-2014 I'm not dead but this team is dead to me...but now that McCloughan is here they may have new life! Jay Gruden = Zorny McSpurrier Kirk Cousins = Next Grossman

12-05-2005, 11:07 PM	#10
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 55 Posts: 1,587	Re: Redskins' Strength of Schedule: We Are A Decent Team We have won almost as many close games as we have lost, but here are my thoughts. We are better than our record simply because Alstott did not get in. We won. We are better on offense than we were last year. We have had one hell of a tough schedule and are still alive to make the playoffs. If we go 9-7, I would be happy. We need another receiver and a couple of d-linemen to be dominant. __________________ Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. A. Einstien

12-06-2005, 07:58 AM	#13
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Redskins' Strength of Schedule: We Are A Decent Team if we are a better team than our record indicates,than running the table is not out of the question.im not sold on eli manning and the giants.but i am impressed with their defense.i think plaxico is big time over rated

12-06-2005, 09:22 AM	#14
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,462	Re: Redskins' Strength of Schedule: We Are A Decent Team We've definitely had a killer schedule and went toe to toe with some of the best teams in the league. If we could have only come out of the AFC West games with a split we'd be in great position for the playoffs right now. There's no doubt this team has lost some tough games, but in the end they only have themselves to blame. Good teams don't beat themselves with penalties and turnovers week after week.

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